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[19:08:52] <mgedmin> what's the status for the new buildout.org?
[19:23:39] <aclark> mgedmin: ask J1m
[19:24:02] <J1m> aclark, that's mean
[19:25:16] <aclark> mgedmin: ask me :-)
[19:25:26] <aclark> mgedmin: what do you want the status to be? :-)
[19:25:41] <J1m> Ok, well, since we're talking about it :)
[19:26:19] <J1m> so, does the html get regenerated when there's a change?
[19:26:47] <aclark> J1m: with google pages, no. it's all static (if that's what you were asking about)
[19:26:56] <J1m> I was under the impression that you'd checked in the generated html, but I don't see that.
[19:27:00] <J1m> google pages?
[19:27:06] <aclark> errr, github pages i mean
[19:27:29] <J1m> I'm confused
[19:27:34] <aclark> i think we tried to recreate the status quo on github pages
[19:27:37] <J1m> where are the static pages?
[19:28:20] <aclark> J1m: sorry, what i mean to say is that we experimented with hosting buildout.org on GitHub via their pages service
[19:28:37] <J1m> ah, I thought you had it working?
[19:28:50] <J1m> I mean:
[19:28:52] <J1m> ah, I thought you had it working
[19:28:54] <J1m> :)
[19:28:54] <aclark> but then gocept or whoever it was fixed their setup so we are back to the status quo
[19:28:59] <aclark> we never made the switch
[19:29:09] <J1m> Do we want to?
[19:29:20] <J1m> I'm not clear where we are
[19:29:35] <aclark> probaby, i mean i think there is some desire for active members (e.g. people talking in this channel) to be able to updated buildout.org
[19:29:44] <J1m> If we have to manually check in or upload static pages, this doesn't sound like a win.
[19:30:01] <aclark> but i had some concerns about using github pages, mainly because i don't want to break anything you may be doing to serve buildout files from buildout.org
[19:30:03] <J1m> But update it by checking in html?
[19:30:05] <aclark> heh
[19:30:11] <aclark> right, or sphinx
[19:30:14] <aclark> make sphinx ; git push
[19:31:08] <J1m> so here are my thoughts:
[19:31:55] <J1m> - I'm OK with what you just said if it's pretty well worked out, including documented. :)
[19:32:24] <J1m> - The existing mechanism works OK for svn contributors, except when it doesn't.
[19:32:40] <aclark> k, it could be that we just move the status quo to github pages where we can edit it (i think it's sphinx generated)
[19:33:38] <J1m> - what github giveth, the sometimes taketh away (I'm still annoyed about downloads going away)
[19:34:05] <J1m> Dang, I gotta go to a meeting.
[19:34:09] <aclark> That is annoying
[19:34:47] <J1m> To move to GH, someone needs to write up a how-to for how we update the docs that involves updating sphinx sources, building and pushing.
[19:34:58] <J1m> sorry, gotta go
[19:35:16] <aclark> k i'll write that, np
[20:36:02] <J1m> aclark, thanks
[20:47:13] <mgedmin> aclark, have you considered readthedocs?
[20:47:34] <mgedmin> there would be no need to commit build results before pushing
[20:48:02] <mgedmin> they have github integration, so just push and the docs are updated
[20:48:21] <J1m> sounds nice
[20:48:21] <mgedmin> and you can use a CNAME
[20:48:28] <mgedmin> http://read-the-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/features.html
[20:49:03] <mgedmin> ooh, an "edit on github" link in the sidebar
[20:49:13] <mgedmin> awesome for submitting doc improvements or typo fixes
[20:50:00] <aclark> mgedmin: sure, RTD is very nice
[20:50:21] <aclark> mgedmin: i don't have a preference really
[20:50:41] <aclark> although, if we are using sphinx that probably leans me more toward RTD
[20:51:03] <aclark> are the current docs checked in somewhere does anyone know? IIRC they are
[20:52:13] <aclark> i must know where the source is because i imported it…
[20:52:59] <J1m> The original source is in svn.zope.org
[20:53:07] <J1m> are you going to reconvert it?
[20:53:21] <J1m> Not much has changed since you did.
[20:53:58] <J1m> I vote for RTD
[20:54:31] <aclark> k
[23:07:23] <aclark> i really wish i could remember what i did before re: hosting docs… oh well
[23:50:38] <aclark> Gah, nothing is ever easy…