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#dcpython logs for Thursday the 13th of October, 2011
[14:21:56] <kennethreitz> I'm like a contractor the blog posts i do, convinced them to give me one ;)
[14:38:21] <aclark> djbpython: if you count me… (i was there on contract last year sometime). other than that, dunno.
[14:43:07] <aclark> J1m: this is what i was babbling about when I saw you last, building something like this: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mr.scripty/1.0b2#another-example into a recipe called c.r.ports to make a "dynamic port manager" of some kind. Haven't had time to work on it ;-)
[14:44:31] <aclark> in face, i wrote this: https://github.com/collective/collective.recipe.ports/blob/master/collective/recipe/ports/__init__.py but ran into a dead of some kind i don't recall the details of
[14:44:34] <J1m> I'm hoping that something like juju (or at least zookeeper or something like it) will someday free humans from thinking about ports or even addresses.
[14:45:48] <hazmat> we hooked up gource (an opengl code analyzer) to juju for a demo at the openstack conference last week, was very fun to visualize the app (hadoop) being deployed and adding capacity
[14:46:48] <J1m> aclark, we aclark we're using meta recipes to address the same problem, http://blip.tv/pycon-us-videos-2009-2010-2011/pycon-2011-deploying-applications-with-zc-buildout-4897770
[14:49:09] <pmxbot> http://www.job-search-engine.com/keyword/python/ - Python Jobs - Browse Keywords | Job Search Made Easy by Juju
[14:58:16] <aclark> kennethreitz: yeah i wanted a logging bot and jaraco set this up "toute de suite", saved me from supybot
[14:59:33] <aclark> doesn't look like it, https://bitbucket.org/yougov/pmxbot/src/ac05c8f369a0/setup.py
[15:32:11] <jaraco> And when you're ready to extend it, I'll show you how to extend it without touching the pmxbot code.
[15:32:31] <jaraco> Before Polimetrix was bought by YouGov, it was written at Polimetrix by my predecessors.
[15:38:19] <aclark> J1m: got any meta-recipe code handy? it just generates recipe sections to avoid having to write them by hand?
[15:39:33] <J1m> The idea is to generate sections, but especially to do so w python, so you have the full power of a programming language, rather than just a macro language.
[16:14:24] <aclark> MattBowen: i can never get used to any of them. my only req (which i often don't have time to fully setup, consistently) is readline (i.e. tab completion, vim key bindings etc) which you can get with python itself
[16:14:52] <hazmat> bpython is nice, but i've had stability issues on occasion, ipython as well, though i've never used it in earnest
[16:16:07] <MattBowen> aclark: yeah i really just want readline I guess. the default keybindings work fine for me
[16:16:48] <aclark> rlcompleter is a must; i just wish i could get the same behavior across python, pdb, and in plone
[16:18:37] <hazmat> its great for pdb usage, pdbtrack, does a nice job of emulating an ide (source walk/highlight lockstep with stack line)
[16:18:43] <aclark> hazmat: it is! i guess i don't get plone because it seems that stuff disappears in it
[16:35:58] <aclark> jaraco: btw it took me a while to figure out that %%s escapes the %, who knew? :-) (re: https://bitbucket.org/tarek/distribute/changeset/a3ba22023b6b)
[16:38:24] <jaraco> Yeah, it's somewhat surprising the first time you find it. I don't care for the syntax because it's not too clear what's happening.