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#dcpython logs for Monday the 17th of October, 2011

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[12:30:56] <aclark> morning
[12:34:10] <MattBowen> aclark: !
[12:46:58] <aclark> MattBowen: How's Sira?
[12:47:28] <MattBowen> aclark: really cool. not like, totally mind blowing, but i've used it a lot more than I've ever used any other voice command
[12:47:43] <MattBowen> aclark: also, I /think/ it's "siri"
[12:48:46] <aclark> Oh, siri right
[12:48:49] <MattBowen> aclark: the coolest thing was as I was driving, I heard the SMS chime, and so I hit the button and said "read me those texts," and she did, "then I said 'I want to reply'" and she took reasonably good dictation, read the message back to me, and sent it
[12:48:50] <aclark> !google siri
[12:48:50] <pmxbot> http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/siri.html - Apple - iPhone 4S - Ask Siri to help you get things done.
[12:49:08] <aclark> HAH awesome
[12:49:27] <aclark> i would love that, i think
[16:11:58] <jaraco1> I nabbed a 4S on Friday also. I was sad when I find I couldn't do voice dialing without an Internet connection... or when Siri was down on Saturday. And it used to be able to dial rapidly (1-2 seconds to recognize a name to dial), but with Siri, it takes 5-10 seconds, because all the processing happens server-side so you have to wait for the round-trip delay.
[16:12:44] <jaraco> But I have to say, Siri was one of the two features that convinced me to buy the phone. I've wanted text message dictation ever since I got a good headset.
[16:13:12] <jaraco> Now I can bicycle and not wonder what text just buzzed in my pocket.
[16:15:35] <jaraco> The other feature was the (theoretical) 2x data speed boost on AT&T.
[17:24:56] <aclark> jaraco: nice!
[18:24:18] <MattBowen> jaraco: because my Droid 1 had gotten so slow, even with the network lag, Siri feels fast to me because at least it starts right away
[18:27:49] <jaraco> Yes, that is nice. The 4s is nice and snappy, probably due to the 2 core processor.
[18:28:13] <MattBowen> jaraco: that said, I was surprised that for simple stuff, like voice dialing, it had to make a round-trip
[18:28:27] <jaraco> I found you can disable siri and get the old behavior.
[18:28:28] <MattBowen> jaraco: hopefully they get some of the basic stuff into the phone
[18:28:41] <MattBowen> jaraco: ah, ok -- that's good to know, although a little bit of leg-work
[18:28:51] <MattBowen> maybe it'll fall back then
[18:29:04] <jaraco> It doesn't unfortunately.
[18:29:11] <MattBowen> right, but maybe in an update
[18:29:16] <jaraco> Oh, yes, maybe.
[18:29:18] <MattBowen> I mean, probably not, but I can dream
[18:30:00] <aclark> hah
[18:30:12] <aclark> you never know, they added the "lock or mute?" knob to the iPad
[18:30:18] <aclark> after people revolted
[18:31:15] <MattBowen> jaraco: what's your headset?
[18:31:38] <jaraco> I'm pretty much just using the standard-issue iPhone headset with remote volume control.
[18:31:50] <MattBowen> ah, ok
[18:32:03] <MattBowen> I wasn't sure if you had a fancy one
[18:32:38] <jaraco> I've tried some bluetooth ones, but never found anything that worked reliably and had the quality I needed without being unbearably bulky.
[18:32:52] <jaraco> And Apply got the cord length right too.
[18:32:55] <jaraco> *Apple
[20:12:23] <MattBowen> aclark: is that a day-ruiner for you?
[20:13:22] <aclark> MattBowen: It's kind of annoying, but will have to work around it
[20:14:11] <aclark> And Zope2 returns "unknown keyword arg" instead of "i don't accept keyword args"
[20:15:09] <MattBowen> aclark: oh that's perfect
[20:16:59] <aclark> heh
[20:40:34] <aclark> bigsassy!
[20:40:56] <aclark> MattBowen: i also suspect Zope2 is not returning the right thing, because i get 302s on success
[20:41:12] <bigsassy> This is Eric Palakovich Carr if anybody is wondering :)
[20:42:17] <aclark> bigsassy: that's what whois is for :-)
[20:42:27] <bigsassy> oh right
[20:42:30] <bigsassy> hehe
[20:42:48] <aclark> bigsassy: how's biz?
[20:43:34] <bigsassy> I've stalled out between the contracting gig and starting a full time job
[20:43:38] <bigsassy> so...not very well
[20:43:47] <bigsassy> I'm trying to get back into the swing of things now
[20:43:52] <bigsassy> trying some new ideas
[20:43:56] <bigsassy> live and learn, right?
[20:44:23] <aclark> bigsassy: heh yup, i hear that
[20:49:07] <MattBowen> bigsassy!
[20:49:17] <bigsassy> yaaay
[20:49:43] <bigsassy> Actually, I'm glad to see this many people in here
[20:50:12] <bigsassy> Now I gotta spread the word for other DC area python peeps to get on
[20:50:40] <aclark> bigsassy: me too
[20:51:11] <jaraco> !motivate bigsassy
[20:51:11] <pmxbot> you're doing good work, bigsassy!
[20:52:37] <hazmat> oh how i wish python bug 4111 got some love.. dtrace/systemtap probes
[20:53:01] <jaraco> http://bugs.python.org/issue4111
[23:35:45] <aclark> !karma aclark
[23:35:45] <pmxbot> aclark has 0 karmas
[23:36:10] <jaraco> !pm aclark
[23:36:18] <jaraco> !m aclark
[23:36:18] <pmxbot> you're doing good work, aclark!
[23:36:21] <aclark> hah
[23:36:24] <aclark> !k aclark
[23:36:24] <pmxbot> aclark has 1 karmas
[23:36:27] <aclark> yes!
[23:39:08] <aclark> interesting