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[14:01:39] <xrogaan> jaraco: hay

[14:02:04] <xrogaan> jaraco: why do you open bugs in your hgtools fork ?

[14:18:04] <jaraco> xrogaan: I like to document the bugs that arise. So others can comment, review.. Also to capture some of the history behind the origin of the bug.

[14:23:47] <jaraco> Also, sometimes I can't resolve the bug as quickly as I would like, so i like to have a place to keep track of progress.

[14:58:50] <xrogaan> jaraco: however, wouldn't it be better to document the original stop ?

[14:58:57] <xrogaan> jaraco: for history sake ?

[14:59:17] <jaraco> I don't follow.

[14:59:21] <xrogaan> jaraco: mercurial is distributed

[14:59:36] <xrogaan> meaning, you don't have to rely on a central place to hack

[14:59:37] <jaraco> You mean do the issue in the parent repo?

[14:59:38] <xrogaan> or commit

[14:59:40] <xrogaan> yeah

[14:59:51] <jaraco> Well, in general, yes, I do that.

[14:59:55] <xrogaan> obviously, it's an project issue, not peronnal

[15:00:04] <jaraco> hgtools, however, has long diverged from setuptools_hg.

[15:00:15] <jaraco> They really are independent efforts at this point.

[15:00:22] <xrogaan> if I have to resolve an issue, I do it internally, then provide a ticket with a patch

[15:00:32] <xrogaan> oh

[15:00:35] <xrogaan> okay

[15:00:51] <xrogaan> they don't push your change in the stream ?

[15:00:56] <xrogaan> changees

[15:00:59] <xrogaan> -e

[15:01:40] <jaraco> No. I haven't made any pull requests, and I don't plan to. My fork has taken a slightly different tack. At some point, I might want to discuss merging the efforts, but for now, it's more trouble than it's worth.

[18:50:32] <MattBowen> Anyone know if SQLAlchemy Elixir is still maintained?

[18:50:48] <MattBowen> Or if it's deprecated in favor of sqlalchemy declarative

[19:14:47] <aclark> MattBowen: never heard of it

[19:15:05] <MattBowen> aclark: http://elixir.ematia.de/trac/wiki

[19:15:21] <MattBowen> I feel like there was a time that it shipped with SQLAlchemy -- not sure if it still does

[19:21:35] <aclark> MattBowen: looks popular-ish: http://pythonpackages.com/package/elixir?tab=downloaded

[19:29:10] <MattBowen> yup -- before declarative, it was "the way"

[19:58:53] <redir> MattBowen it hasn't been updated since 2009. Which I think is about the time Declarative made it into sqla .5

[20:04:06] <MattBowen> redir: yeah, that's what concerned me -- i wasn't sure if maybe they just stopped updating their news or what

[20:05:44] <redir> MattBowen did you ask in #sqlalchemy?

[20:06:21] <MattBowen> redir: not yet -- i try to look like a fool in front of people who i know first

[20:06:38] <MattBowen> but that is my next step

[20:08:20] <redir> more importantly is there a reason to not use sqla.Declarative?

[20:24:14] <MattBowen> yeah honestly that's what i'm trying to figure out