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[10:23:31] <Derick> svm_invictvs: DocumentDB is not MongoDB code, it's just a similar API

[10:47:25] <beStKodErEveR> I have my own server, with mongo running, is there some EASY tool to install to browse my DB from chrome/firefox?

[10:47:37] <beStKodErEveR> im running ubuntu

[10:52:25] <Derick> yes, Compass

[10:52:45] <Derick> https://www.mongodb.com/download-center/compass?jmp=hero

[10:57:19] <beStKodErEveR> Derick, it costs right? I want something free.. its can be supersimpel.

[10:57:56] <beStKodErEveR> Derick, I just want to see the DB, no CRUD needed

[10:58:13] <Derick> no, it's free

[10:58:27] <Derick> (As long as you download the Community edition)

[11:00:53] <beStKodErEveR> Derick, thanks ..looks great.. :-) will try it now..

[11:11:36] <beStKodErEveR> Derick, are you sure compass can be runned on a remote server? I can only access the terminal/SSH to it.

[11:15:52] <Derick> you should run it locally, and then use an ssh tunnel for your connection

[11:16:00] <Derick> Compass should support that

[11:17:08] <beStKodErEveR> yes i know, but i dont want that, i need something that runs purely on the browser

[11:17:28] <beStKodErEveR> Derick, so it must be some server kind of thing

[11:17:34] <Derick> I don't think anything like that exists

[11:17:51] <Derick> nothing graphic at least

[11:19:54] <beStKodErEveR> Derick, mViewer seems ok.. https://github.com/Imaginea/mViewer.git

[11:20:04] <beStKodErEveR> will try it now...lets c...

[11:46:12] <beStKodErEveR> Derick, ok i give up.. everyting fails...

[11:46:32] <beStKodErEveR> i think everything is outdated...

[11:49:56] <Derick> seriously, just try Compass with an SSH tunnel...

[11:50:27] <synthmeat> yeah. there's even read-only version for your more "manageurial" team mates :)

[11:52:12] <Derick> that's not part of the free offering though

[11:52:34] <synthmeat> oh, it must've changed then

[11:52:46] <Derick> I don't think that's true.

[11:53:14] <beStKodErEveR> I need a browser viewer.. for the manager

[11:53:14] <synthmeat> i was able to freely download all the versions up to 14 or 15 or something

[11:53:47] <beStKodErEveR> strange..

[11:55:38] <synthmeat> but easy enough to workaround-ish with read-only user and compass community edition, no?

[11:55:40] <Derick> synthmeat: freely download doesn't mean free to use :)

[11:56:22] <Derick> synthmeat: https://www.mongodb.com/download-center/compass?jmp=hero — look at what it says under the download button for all editions

[11:57:27] <synthmeat> yeesh

[11:59:18] <beStKodErEveR> im stuck.. time to xplain for the managers :-S :-)

[12:00:54] <synthmeat> i'm not sure what's happening though. i just downloaded it, hooked it up, works, non-community. i should remove it and install community?

[12:01:55] <synthmeat> it is a bit insane if so. i should at least have a warning somewhere i'm in kind of breach.

[12:02:44] <synthmeat> if it's "available as part of subscription" then it shouldn't be available without subscription :D

[12:04:06] <Derick> synthmeat: yeah, I agree :)

[12:05:51] <synthmeat> i don't even care about these authentication options or real-time stats

[12:05:57] <synthmeat> schema thingie was coolio tho

[12:06:05] <synthmeat> *schema analysis

[12:06:19] <Derick> I don't think we'd be too fussed about it.

[12:06:29] <Derick> but, it's not legally OK

[12:07:13] <synthmeat> well, if anything, it made me consider using Atlas :/

[12:07:43] <Derick> exactly! :D

[12:07:59] <synthmeat> :)

[12:08:06] <Derick> Atlas is pretty cool

[12:09:32] <synthmeat> yeah, i'm only worried of bandwidth charges. but that's a non-issue for people who replicate over data centers anyways. i just replicate within a single one, so i can use private network for free

[12:38:37] <synthmeat> i never had issues with pri (1.0) + sec (0.5) + sec (0.5) + hidden non-voting when primary went down

[12:38:56] <synthmeat> they vote up a primary and everything still worked

[12:44:02] <synthmeat> k. let's see wheteher updates fixed that "network spiking to 300mbps during mongodump on hidden replica" thingie

[12:57:19] <synthmeat> how come it doesn't reserve half of my ram anymore?

[12:57:58] <synthmeat> i thought wt would take half or some minimum by default

[13:16:11] <beStKodErEveR> how do you think about converting a JSON structure to mongoDB? check out the Data tab: https://nivo.rocks/treemap/html

[13:19:50] <beStKodErEveR> im using moongose .. just use it..make schema..i guess so. ;-/

[13:23:26] <synthmeat> i don't think you can make recursive schemas

[13:24:31] <beStKodErEveR> synthmeat, hmm.. I was thinking that was a problem...

[13:25:10] <beStKodErEveR> maybe you just have to static order..

[13:25:26] <beStKodErEveR> im nit sure how the endresult will be..

[13:25:59] <beStKodErEveR> but the children will be just document/object i guess..(new 2 dis)

[13:27:48] <synthmeat> if you're only starting... drop the mongoose, you don't need that.

[16:48:49] <svm_invictvs> Derick Yeah, well ... it's gotta have some MongoDB in it I gather

[16:50:59] <Derick> svm_invictvs: not that we think

[16:51:12] <Derick> afaik it's based on top of their Aurora thing

[16:51:34] <svm_invictvs> oh god

[16:51:35] <svm_invictvs> Derick Why does Amazon need to take something that's perfectly fine and shit all over it?

[16:51:46] <svm_invictvs> Derick This is just a redux of Embrace Extend Exterminate

[16:51:59] <svm_invictvs> Microsoft and Google just host MongoDB

[16:52:29] <Trezker> 2If it aint broke, change it" Motto of marketing departments everywhere

[16:53:19] <Derick> svm_invictvs: thats a great question. I reckon they think they can win over customers because they do it "managed"... but, there is Atlas, which is a *real* MongoDB, backed by MongoDB Inc (with our support engineers)

[16:53:47] <Derick> but I couldn't even run my tiny side project against DocumentDB as it doesn't do some Aggregation Functions that I use

[16:54:08] <svm_invictvs> I just peeked at the compatibility list, and it seems that what I'm using it for works okay

[16:54:22] <Trezker> They constantly need changes to announce and the things that are working well get more attention so they always change the things that don't need any change

[16:54:27] <svm_invictvs> Does Atlas do replication and backups easily?

[16:54:37] <Derick> yes

[16:55:35] <svm_invictvs> How do I get it in my current VPC?

[16:56:53] <Derick> I don't know how to do that, but I know it's possible to do

[16:58:14] <Derick> there is a Clusters -> Security -> Peering option

[16:59:19] <Derick> https://docs.atlas.mongodb.com/security-vpc-peering/ has the docs

[17:27:38] <svm_invictvs> Derick Looks like i uses vpn?

[22:31:20] <Derick> It's just Amazon's VPC thing - not sure what that has to do with VPN?

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