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[15:32:01] <wiredfool_> hey idella4

[15:32:31] <idella4> ah is this the channel for pillow then?

[15:33:15] <wiredfool_> it is, but there aren't many people in it

[15:33:21] <wiredfool_> (obviously

[15:33:31] <idella4> I'm still attempting to make clear what pil is and pillow is

[15:34:08] <wiredfool_> pil is the original, pillow is a fork that improves packaging and is starting to get bugfixes and improvements

[15:34:12] <idella4> hope you clear the basics first

[15:34:38] <wiredfool_> So, what I'm seeing from you on github is that you're missing a bunch of libraries

[15:34:39] <idella4> well pil and imaging are quite distinct yes?

[15:34:52] <idella4> ah good you've read it

[15:34:55] <wiredfool_> in terms of who's doing it, yes

[15:35:03] <idella4> ah very good

[15:35:06] <wiredfool_> in terms of code, there's probably 99% overlap

[15:35:11] <wiredfool_> so far

[15:35:14] <idella4> well py2 works

[15:35:19] <wiredfool_> yes

[15:35:23] <idella4> the problem is py3

[15:35:39] <wiredfool_> https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow/issues/175#issuecomment-16705719

[15:35:49] <idella4> oooh ok

[15:37:06] <wiredfool_> fwiw, I know debian/ubuntu well, and have never actually logged into gentoo

[15:37:52] <idella4> eeer, you've actually answered me in the last half hour

[15:37:58] <idella4> oos right

[15:38:48] <wiredfool_> yeah, in the last 5 minutes actually

[15:39:14] <idella4> ah well glad you're here since I still need to get this clear

[15:40:02] <idella4> all those ubuntu type packages are installed

[15:40:14] <wiredfool_> ok, then it's not finding the headers

[15:40:21] <idella4> subsequently py2 build does fine

[15:40:45] <idella4> just let me check on something first b4 I say any more

[15:41:43] <idella4> ok here's how the packages are in portage

[15:42:05] <idella4> RDEPEND=">=media-libs/jpeg-6a \ >=media-libs/freetype-2.4.9

[15:42:34] <idella4> >=media-libs/lcms-1.1.5 \ sane? ( media-gfx/sane-backends ) \ media-libs/libwebp

[15:44:30] <idella4> so these packages aren't paython packages with python modules

[15:44:50] <wiredfool_> right, they're system libraries

[15:45:00] <idella4> so you're suggesting that py3.2 build is not finding the headers yes?

[15:45:13] <wiredfool_> yes

[15:45:18] <idella4> and python2 is doing fine

[15:45:23] <wiredfool_> are you building from portage or a git checkout?

[15:45:47] <idella4> at this point I've only run the build from an ebuild

[15:46:27] <idella4> here SRC_URI="mirror://pypi/${MY_PN:0:1}/${MY_PN}/${MY_PN}-${PV}.zip -> ${P}.zip"

[15:46:41] <idella4> is the line that acquires the tarball from pypi

[15:47:00] <idella4> so if I cd to the source

[15:47:02] <wiredfool_> ok, so 2.0.0. release.

[15:47:12] <wiredfool_> should still work.

[15:47:23] <idella4> can you give me a line to run to build with py3.2 now?

[15:47:31] <idella4> hmm it should

[15:47:37] <wiredfool_> can you cd to the dir, run python3 setup.py build, and copy the output to a gist?

[15:47:59] <wiredfool_> or, first, delete the Pillow/build directory to force a clean build

[15:48:18] <idella4> yep easy

[15:48:56] <idella4> well I use the ebuild to do a clean always

[15:49:13] <idella4> so yep I have a fresh source pillow-2.0.0

[15:49:45] <idella4> shal I do python3 setup.py build > thislog.txt?

[15:49:57] <idella4> then aopy paste the file?

[15:50:05] <idella4> then copy paste the file?

[15:50:36] <wiredfool_> sure

[15:50:46] <idella4> greaaaat

[15:50:50] <wiredfool_> also, if you do python2 as well, I can see the diff

[15:50:57] <idella4> sure

[15:51:11] <idella4> ok here I go I'll do py2 first

[15:52:22] <idella4> running now

[15:55:39] <idella4> first @ https://gist.github.com/idella/5426427

[15:56:24] <idella4> Im puzzled it seems to have done just a configure and not a build

[15:57:03] <idella4> I don't need run as root do I?

[15:57:04] <wiredfool_> build should build but not install

[15:57:19] <idella4> yep

[15:58:10] <wiredfool_> ok, that's looking normal

[15:58:16] <idella4> ok it's made a build/{lib.linux-x86_64-2.7,scripts-2.7,temp.linux-x86_64-2.7}

[15:58:34] <idella4> good now can I do a clean from here

[15:58:49] <idella4> python setup.py clean or something

[15:59:03] <idella4> or popd and remake the source folder and return?

[15:59:17] <wiredfool_> if you rm the build folder it's good enough

[15:59:24] <idella4> right

[16:02:13] <idella4> right now refresh the page at gist

[16:02:18] <idella4> and you have it

[16:03:45] <idella4> idella4: awaits with baited breath

[16:04:40] <wiredfool_> yep, it's definitely not finding the libraries

[16:05:15] <wiredfool_> the gcc line on py3.2 is x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -fPIC -DHAVE_LIBZ -IlibImaging...

[16:05:32] <wiredfool_> and on 2.7 it's x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -pthread -fPIC -DHAVE_LIBJPEG -DHAVE_LIBZ -DHAVE_LIBTIFF

[16:05:48] <idella4> aha

[16:05:51] <wiredfool_> -I/usr/include/freetype2 -IlibImaging

[16:08:05] <wiredfool_> is 2.7 installing multiarch support?

[16:08:36] <idella4> oh that's a hard 1. multiarch

[16:08:51] <idella4> how does it install for mutliarch?

[16:09:09] <idella4> my system here is 64 bit multilib

[16:09:36] <idella4> however offhand I don't see how py2 py3 are distinguished

[16:10:04] <wiredfool_> looks like no

[16:10:28] <wiredfool_> 2.7 is building things like: build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/_imagingmath.so

[16:10:42] <wiredfool_> 3.2 is installing build/lib.linux-x86_64-3.2/_imagingmath.cpython-32.so

[16:10:59] <wiredfool_> The differences, I suspect, are in setup.py, and specifically, what's providing setuptools

[16:11:14] <wiredfool_> there's a multitude, and they're different between 2.x and 3.x

[16:11:28] <wiredfool_> there's at least setuptools, easy_install, and distribute

[16:11:30] <idella4> ah ok

[16:12:03] <wiredfool_> this is where multiarch support is: https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow/blob/master/setup.py#L449

[16:12:39] <wiredfool_> I think we've got someone testing on fedora, or at least, someone from fedora is sending us patches

[16:12:52] <idella4> k

[16:15:39] <idella4> well here

[16:15:42] <idella4> Installed versions: 0.6.33(10:18:29 13/01/13)(PYTHON_TARGETS="pypy1_9 pypy2_0 python2_5 python2_6 python2_7 python3_1 python3_2 -pypy1_8 -python3_3")

[16:15:53] <idella4> is the portage listing od setuptools

[16:16:06] <wiredfool_> hmmm

[16:16:26] <idella4> which means that it is installed under pypy1.9 2.0

[16:16:42] <idella4> python2.5-7 python3.1-2

[16:17:27] <idella4> so with a python3.2 build it's importing from usr/lib64/python3.2/site-packages/

[16:18:03] <idella4> so what where is the slipup?

[16:18:10] <wiredfool_> not sure

[16:18:28] <wiredfool_> ok, try this.

[16:18:31] <idella4> I would think the installed state of python3.2 is stock standard

[16:18:36] <idella4> go on

[16:18:40] <wiredfool_> https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow/blob/master/setup.py#L80

[16:19:40] <wiredfool_> make that FREETYPE_ROOT = ('/usr/lib/freetype2', '/usr/include/freetype2)

[16:19:53] <wiredfool_> FREETYPE_ROOT = ('/usr/lib/freetype2', '/usr/include/freetype2')

[16:20:01] <wiredfool_> corrected quotes

[16:20:08] <idella4> as in copy paste the setup.py replace the source setup/py?

[16:20:13] <wiredfool_> now, try a build with python3, and see if freetype2 is enabled

[16:20:25] <wiredfool_> edit the setup..py in the directory where you're building

[16:21:04] <idella4> I'm adding the line @ 80?

[16:21:18] <wiredfool_> replace the existing FREETYPE_ROOT = None line

[16:21:31] <wiredfool_> it's a tuple of (libdir, includedir)

[16:21:54] <wiredfool_> if that works, we're going to do it for jpeg, zlib, tiff and lcms

[16:22:00] <idella4> right

[16:22:26] <idella4> FREETYPE_ROOT = ('/usr/lib/freetype2', '/usr/include/freetype2')

[16:22:33] <idella4> is the correct form to enter then

[16:23:54] <wiredfool_> yep

[16:26:29] <idella4> ok we have a yes and a no

[16:26:51] <idella4> work/Pillow-2.0.0 $ python3.2 setup.py build yielded

[16:27:10] <idella4> *** FREETYPE2 support not available

[16:27:36] <idella4> $ python ./selftest.py script yielded

[16:27:57] <idella4> --- PIL CORE support ok \ --- TKINTER support ok

[16:28:24] <idella4> --- JPEG support ok \ --- ZLIB (PNG/ZIP) support ok \

[16:28:41] <idella4> *** G4 TIFF support not installed \ --- FREETYPE2 support ok

[16:28:45] <idella4> plus 2 more lines

[16:28:47] <wiredfool_> python selftest

[16:28:50] <wiredfool_> not python3

[16:29:08] <wiredfool_> can you locate libfreetype

[16:29:31] <idella4> work/Pillow-2.0.0 $ python ./selftest.py script is what I used

[16:30:11] <idella4> is it libfreetype.so or such

[16:30:13] <wiredfool_> right, but that's checking python2

[16:30:16] <wiredfool_> not python3

[16:30:24] <idella4> I can locate an installed file

[16:30:43] <idella4> oh so I need run python3.2 selftest script then

[16:30:48] <wiredfool_> probably

[16:31:43] <idella4> hm a moment

[16:31:47] <wiredfool_> ok, I've only got a couple minutes before I have to run

[16:32:05] <wiredfool_> I'd like to get this solved to get gentoo working

[16:32:42] <wiredfool_> do you have a gentoo vm that is setup that I can grab and poke at, or one that I can log into?

[16:33:57] <idella4> I don't no, but mb I guess I have contacts in gentoo

[16:34:10] <idella4> and I can locate one and give you the location

[16:34:18] <idella4> in fact I know just the man

[16:35:11] <wiredfool_> ok.

[16:36:21] <wiredfool_> shoot me the info @ eric-github@soroos.net

[16:36:30] <idella4> got it

[16:36:45] <idella4> thanks so much for your help

[16:36:57] <wiredfool_> sure thing

[16:37:07] <idella4> I just had to make symlinks for the py3.2 .sos

[16:37:10] <idella4> ran it

[16:37:20] <idella4> *** FREETYPE2 support not installed

[16:37:26] <idella4> so that hasn't worked

[16:38:37] <wiredfool_> I think it's in build_ext.compiler.find_library_files that's the problem

[16:38:48] <idella4> right

[16:38:55] <wiredfool_> If I get something I can hack on, I should be able to find it

[16:39:17] <idella4> I've pinged him now

[16:39:21] <wiredfool_> a vm with py27, 3.2, and the build tools would do it

[16:39:26] <wiredfool_> and emacs

[16:39:27] <idella4> how long have you?

[16:39:41] <idella4> hmm it'll have that for sure

[16:39:44] <wiredfool_> bout a minute, but I'll be back this evening

[16:39:56] <idella4> ok got you

[16:41:05] <wiredfool_> right, I'll look for an email, or I'll check back here later

[16:41:22] <idella4> it shouldn't be long

[16:41:43] <idella4> Neddy is in the channel now

[16:42:02] <idella4> I have 00.40

[16:42:08] <idella4> might fo the email

[17:08:50] <idella4> Sun Apr 21 01:06:15 WST 2013

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