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[04:49:23] <idella4> here?

[16:36:24] <idella4> here yet?

[16:40:01] <aclark> idella4: pong

[16:40:09] <idella4> ah hi

[16:40:14] <idella4> how you going?

[16:40:45] <aclark> idella4: good! and you?

[16:40:58] <idella4> mmm pretty well thx

[16:41:27] <idella4> the other dev mgorny has gone over this and he points at py3.2 itself

[16:42:24] <idella4> which appears valid actually, and the patches themaselves (2) appear only a month old

[16:43:29] <idella4> I contacted a gentoo admin tp return email to wiredfool: with a gentoo vm to log into

[16:43:45] <idella4> I have no confirmation he got one and logged in yet

[16:44:30] <idella4> I've tried the settings in setup.py for OPTION_ROOT = for most of them and they just do nothing to a py3.2 build

[16:45:18] <aclark> idella4: ok i don't have time to look now but am planning to do some Pillow work soon, I'll be going through every outstanding issue

[16:45:38] <idella4> I first really faced this type of nomenclature thingy with pyside long ago

[16:46:11] <idella4> with py3 making an ext with .cpython32 for .so modules

[16:46:14] <idella4> ok right

[16:48:03] <idella4> wiredfool: replied to the issue 8 minutes ago within a minute of me doing the same

[17:03:01] <idella4> wiredfool: is coming AND going

[17:06:42] <idella4> ah here again?

[17:37:16] <idella4> ah here again?

[17:54:27] <idella4> ah hey master Neddy

[18:21:06] <idella4> hmm; I just got a py3.2 to work in pillow, but I think they's still like tp log into a gentoo vm

[18:28:44] <idella4> wiredfool: here?

[18:38:23] <NeddySeagoon> idella4, I'm setting one up. The master I use to clone from was suffering from neglect, so I'm doing an update

[18:38:41] <idella4> ah good

[18:38:53] <NeddySeagoon> wiredfool, has everything he needs to log in except his password

[18:39:03] <idella4> ah excellent

[18:39:27] <idella4> I'm sure he will appreciate the opportunity

[18:39:38] <NeddySeagoon> I need to update the kernel too, its got an old 2.6 without DEVTMPFS set :(

[18:39:46] <idella4> ah my

[18:39:58] <idella4> that definitely needs an update

[18:40:25] <NeddySeagoon> It won'r boot again until I fix that. Just now, its doing @world

[18:41:19] <idella4> ah I see

[18:42:26] <idella4> ah ok

[18:43:36] <NeddySeagoon> idella4, its a /no-multilib/ hardened ~amd64 KVM is that ok ?

[18:43:59] <NeddySeagoon> It was still EAPI-4 too

[18:44:10] <wiredfool_> hey NeddySeagoon, idella4

[18:44:19] <NeddySeagoon> hi wiredfool_

[18:44:24] <idella4> hmm that looks fine. I don't see the no-multilib as a drawback

[18:44:31] <idella4> hey

[18:45:25] <NeddySeagoon> idella4 do you need a shell there ?

[18:45:35] <idella4> about time you showed up!!! .. !!

[18:45:41] <idella4> me no not really

[18:45:54] <wiredfool_> sorry, I'm in and out on weekends

[18:46:37] <idella4> well we/ve determined that a recent patch to py3.2 makes for a fix

[18:46:55] <wiredfool_> I'm hoping that this gentoo vm is representative enough that we can test there on an ongoign basis, and if it works there, it should work for most people

[18:47:03] <wiredfool_> or at least, we can close things as works for me

[18:47:14] <wiredfool_> I saw that you got it working on 3.2.4

[18:47:30] <idella4> I've just now made a working on 3.2.4 yep

[18:48:16] <wiredfool_> that means it's probably not going to work on 3.3 till that patch is pushed out to a point release

[18:48:27] <idella4> I think Neddy is in and out too

[18:48:45] <idella4> see he said you just need to designate a password

[18:49:04] <wiredfool_> https://gist.github.com/wiredfool/c5631d7920cbff07b6b1 -- ssh key

[18:49:12] <idella4> see he's atm updating the vm and will soon be ready to go

[18:49:21] <wiredfool_> ok

[18:49:40] <wiredfool_> does gentoo have releases, or is it totally rolling release?

[18:49:47] <idella4> see there he said it has a pretty old kernel

[18:49:53] <idella4> totally rolloing

[18:50:21] <idella4> well there was a recent making of a 13.0 profile

[18:50:34] <idella4> the prior one was 10.0 which lasted 3 years

[18:50:55] <wiredfool_> does it have python3.3 as well as 3.2?

[18:51:26] <idella4> and a profile doesn't equate to a release

[18:51:37] <idella4> well he'll have py3.2 on it

[18:52:01] <idella4> he probably has py3.3 on it, he can add it in a flash

[18:52:23] <idella4> ah he's back

[18:52:54] <idella4> NeddySeagoon: wiredfool just asked re the vm having py3.3

[18:53:07] <idella4> sure you can put that in

[18:53:10] <wiredfool_> gentoo in general, not necessarily the vm

[18:53:19] <idella4> portage has it yep

[18:53:26] <wiredfool_> ok

[18:53:29] <idella4> but it's still masked

[18:53:38] <idella4> from general use

[18:54:05] <NeddySeagoon> If its ~arch it will have it, if not, I can unmask it and install it

[18:54:19] <idella4> there you have it

[18:54:26] <wiredfool_> looking at the compatibility matrix, we're supporting only 2.6 on ubuntu 10.04, since it's the packages system python

[18:54:34] <idella4> wiredfool: arch == testing

[18:54:38] <wiredfool_> ok

[18:54:50] <idella4> wiredfool: ~arch == testing rather

[18:54:58] <wiredfool_> but we're doing the full set on 12.04, since it's the current LTS

[18:55:03] <idella4> arch == stable

[18:55:34] <wiredfool_> this is one of the hard problems in CS. Naming things

[18:57:21] <idella4> wiredfool: work/Pillow-2.0.0 $ hostname

[18:57:30] <idella4> archtester

[18:58:13] <idella4> I made this gentoo as a stable system for doing arch testin, in my case amd64

[18:58:22] <NeddySeagoon> idella4, is there a pillow ebuild ?

[18:58:37] <idella4> just made it ~arch

[18:58:43] <idella4> eeere there are 2

[18:58:48] <NeddySeagoon> in portage ?

[18:59:01] <idella4> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401009

[18:59:43] <idella4> no, now we have a fix, sheeesh this is a very rare case

[19:00:07] <idella4> we now have to bump cpython-3.2.4 to 3.2.4

[19:01:04] <idella4> this bug needed a fix before mgorny or I would add it

[19:01:34] <idella4> we now have to bump cpython-3.2.3 to 3.2.4 rather

[19:02:29] <idella4> it's up to wiredfool here as to whether ha can or will make a patch of pillow's setup.py or

[19:02:41] <idella4> mb for setuptools itself even

[19:03:29] <idella4> I don't think mgorny has added it. I just haven't checked but I doubt it

[19:05:16] <idella4> it will clearly take the wheels a while to turn to get python-3.2.3 bumped,

[19:05:26] <idella4> being python it's no minor bump

[19:06:15] <idella4> which I would think warrants a patch to work with py3.2.3 as a stop gap

[19:07:13] <idella4> NeddySeagoon: I think you might want this https://gist.github.com/wiredfool/c5631d7920cbff07b6b1 -- ssh key

[19:07:27] <idella4> which you missed while you were momentarily out

[19:31:13] <bluebottle> wiredfool, my display system has just died on me. I'm on a netbook. Its unlikely I will get your VM updated tonight my time. I'm in Scotland

[19:32:57] <wiredfool_> ok, no worries

[19:33:39] <idella4> wiredfool: what is the package for TCL?

[19:33:57] <wiredfool_> it's the tcl/tk package

[19:34:04] <wiredfool_> or tkinter

[19:34:07] <wiredfool_> it's complicated

[19:34:12] <idella4> yes it is

[19:34:26] <idella4> is this it? dev-tcltk/tcllib

[19:34:37] <wiredfool_> probably

[19:34:40] <idella4> Homepage: http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcllib/

[19:35:07] <idella4> ok what is the installed library name?

[19:35:35] <idella4> portage has nothing that has tkinter in the package name

[19:35:58] <idella4> but that looks like it's it to me

[19:52:50] <wiredfool_> the .so that I'm getting is /usr/lib/libtk8.5.so.0

[19:53:11] <idella4> ok

[19:56:33] <idella4> ok thx that is the core dev-lang/tk Available versions: 8.5.13-r1 (~)8.6.0(0/8.6)^t {aqua debug test (+)threads truetype xscreensaver}

[19:56:37] <idella4> in portge

[19:58:14] <idella4> dev-python/pillow $ ls -ld /usr/lib64/libtk8.5.so yields -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1331888 Oct 27 09:15 /usr/lib64/libtk8.5.so

[19:58:45] <idella4> note lib64 for which /lib has a symlink in gentoo

[20:01:18] <wiredfool_> yeah, there's code to check for that

[20:01:59] <wiredfool_> (just for random info, right now I've got two kids running around with wine boxes on their heads trying to fight. There are no eye holes in the boxes. It looks like demented robots)

[20:04:15] <idella4> ah very cool

[20:04:50] <idella4> they'd be youngsters, little kids

[20:14:27] <wiredfool_> yes. 3 and 6, (and 8, but he's not running around with a box on his head)

[20:15:51] <idella4> ah the sane one

[20:15:59] <idella4> been a pleasure wiredfool

[20:16:05] <idella4> I'm shutting down

[20:16:17] <idella4> Mon Apr 22 04:13:43 WST 2013

[20:16:22] <idella4> catch you again

[22:06:03] <bluebottle> wiredfool, the display on my main PC is dead. Its going to slow down setting up your KVM.

[22:07:13] <bluebottle> I still have ssh access but no console access. If I screw up the kernel update, I'll need to install virt-manager somewhere to get the console again

[22:07:38] <bluebottle> I'm NeddySeagoon ...

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