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[23:28:02] <Pavlov> anyone have any suggestions on how to get better image resizing quality? specifically downsizing

[23:28:24] <Pavlov> i've got a jpeg source, say 240x240, and am trying to resize down to 60x60. i'm using ANTIALIAS

[23:28:32] <Pavlov> saving back out to jpeg, quality=90

[23:28:47] <Pavlov> but the result is substantially worse than if i just let the browser resize the image

[23:30:41] <wiredfool> pavlov: have you tried bicubic fitering?

[23:31:13] <wiredfool> alternately, a slight blur might be helpful as well.

[23:32:05] <Pavlov> bicubic wasn't awesome

[23:32:08] <Pavlov> let me compare though

[23:33:17] <Pavlov> bicubic just looks like lots of jpeg artifacts, even if i save it out as a png

[23:34:15] <wiredfool> what software/version are you using?

[23:34:19] <Pavlov> let me see

[23:35:48] <Pavlov> it looks like i have PIL 1.1.7 installed

[23:36:39] <Pavlov> and i think probably some fairly recent libjpeg

[23:37:02] <wiredfool> it's not 1 bit or a paletted image?

[23:37:08] <wiredfool> what platform?

[23:37:21] <Pavlov> its just a jpeg image

[23:37:28] <Pavlov> its uh

[23:37:39] <wiredfool> ok, so probably just a normal RGB

[23:38:38] <Pavlov> yeah

[23:38:42] <Pavlov> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11413338/8bd352129eacc9de07c03b0ece8ba055.jpeg for reference

[23:41:50] <Pavlov> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11413338/example.png has the browser resize on the left, PIL bicubic on the right

[23:42:22] <Pavlov> (the bicubi is being spit out as a png to avoid jpeg quality/etc issues)

[23:44:43] <wiredfool> are you on a retina mac?

[23:45:09] <Pavlov> yeah

[23:45:23] <Pavlov> Am I just being dumb and needing to double the size?

[23:45:26] <wiredfool> The browser is resizing at 2x

[23:46:16] <wiredfool> that's a 120x120 image in the browser

[23:47:40] <Pavlov> mm, ok let me futz with that for a bit

[23:47:48] <Pavlov> i'm much happier with that being the case :)

[23:49:02] <wiredfool> the resize looks ok to me at 120x120

[23:49:06] <Pavlov> yeah

[23:49:17] <wiredfool> it looks small at 60x60, but bad at pixel doubled 60x60

[23:50:12] <Pavlov> thanks

[23:50:25] <Pavlov> seperately, is pillow what the cool kids are using these days?

[23:51:43] <wiredfool> It's what I'm working on

[23:52:00] <wiredfool> It's got some momentum

[23:52:57] <wiredfool> but yeah, I think so