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[05:36:38] <paulproteus> BTW, I'm that Asheesh fellow from the distutils-sig list.
[11:58:51] <pmxbot> arfrever pushed 1 commit to setuptools (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/) :
[11:58:51] <pmxbot> Issue #183: Really fix test command with Python 3.1.
[13:05:49] <Jurko> could someone take a look at and merge PR #44 on setuptools? don't really know how the procedure goes... :smile:
[13:06:31] <Jurko> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/pull-request/44
[18:54:53] <pmxbot> jaraco pushed 2 commits to setuptools (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/) :
[18:54:53] <pmxbot> Added tag 3.4.3 for changeset 06a56e063c32
[18:54:53] <pmxbot> Bumped to 3.4.4 in preparation for next release.
[18:55:20] <jaraco> !jm Arfrever
[18:55:20] <pmxbot> Arfrever さん, あなたわよくやっています! (Arfrever san, anata wa yoku yatte imasu!) - (^_−)−☆
[19:03:26] <Arfrever> What meaneth it?
[21:06:46] <Arfrever> jaraco: Which version of setuptools is shown when you open https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools in web browser?
[21:08:53] <Jurko> 3.4.3 for me
[21:09:26] <jaraco> 3.4.3 for me as well.
[21:10:06] <jaraco> !translate |en Arfrever さん, あなたわよくやっています!
[21:10:17] <jaraco> :/
[21:10:31] <jaraco> It means "You're doing good work" (in Japanese)
[21:10:42] <Arfrever> And if you fully clear browser cache (Ctrl+Shift+Del in Firefox) and refresh page?
[21:11:14] <Jurko> anyone here familiar with setuptools internals and how it switches its zip file?
[21:11:41] <jaraco> Arfrever, same after clearing all cache entries.
[21:11:45] <Jurko> I'm trying to find out why setuptools raises ZipImportErrors when it tries to upgrade it...
[21:12:28] <Jurko> Arfrever: I had nothing cached to start with...
[21:20:39] <Arfrever> dstufft: Why would https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools reproducibly show me version 3.3 with empty browser cache and 3.4.3 otherwise?
[21:21:19] <dstufft> uh
[21:21:21] <dstufft> I dunno
[21:21:27] <Jurko> Arfrever: tried with a different browser?
[21:21:28] <dstufft> might be getting different nodes in Fastly
[21:21:39] <dstufft> and one might have 3.3 cached
[21:24:26] <Arfrever> Jurko, jaraco: When testing, have you cleared all cookies for pypi.python.org?
[21:25:47] <jaraco> I did not.
[21:25:53] <Jurko> Arfrever: nope... will try it now...
[21:26:21] <jaraco> I see 3.3 if I open in a private session.
[21:29:01] <jaraco> I can't imagine why that would be. Very strange.
[21:29:54] <Arfrever> dstufft: ^^
[21:30:29] <Jurko> Arfrever: yup... opening the page 'https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools' with 'iexplore -private' shows me 3.3
[21:31:22] <dstufft> huh
[21:31:27] <dstufft> that's strange
[21:31:29] <dstufft> moment
[21:31:30] <Jurko> Arfrever: but if I click the 'setuptools' link on that same page - which is actually the same link... it moves me to 3.4.3
[21:32:08] <dstufft> try now
[21:32:26] <Jurko> Works now
[21:32:36] <Arfrever> dstufft: Now 3.4.3 with no cookies.
[21:32:44] <Arfrever> dstufft: What have you changed?
[21:32:46] <Jurko> whatcha do? :-)
[21:32:54] <dstufft> I purged https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools
[21:32:58] <dstufft> from the fastly cache
[21:34:25] <Arfrever> dstufft: Why was old version in this cache?
[21:35:09] <dstufft> dunno
[21:35:11] <Jurko> As for the setuptools/ZipImportError bug... I have it reliably reproduced using bleeding-edge setuptools and debug build bleeding-edge CPython... if anyone's interested in chiming in with suggestions...
[23:20:52] <pmxbot> jaraco pushed 1 commit to setuptools (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/) :
[23:20:52] <pmxbot> Add test capturing overmatching in new find_packages. Ref #184.