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[00:39:22] <dstufft> Oh, Fastly just required the SSL Cert from Digicert, so maybe they're gonna get our TLS up soon

[00:39:26] <dstufft> requested*

[02:04:50] <dstufft> jaraco: Do you have any thoughts on making Distribution.fetch_build_egg hookable? So that pip can register itself as the thing to insall packages ?

[02:05:02] <dstufft> thinking about setup_requires specifically

[02:05:08] <dstufft> is that something setuptools could get?

[16:04:40] <Alex_Gaynor> dstufft: do you hvae any sense of when the next pip release will be?

[16:07:44] <dstufft> Alex_Gaynor: there's no expected release date or anything, just whenever I guess

[16:07:58] <dstufft> I'm guessing you're looking for the pypy fix?

[16:08:15] <Alex_Gaynor> dstufft: yeah, the openstack folks are getting fidgity about it, and the debian guy is awal

[16:08:21] <Alex_Gaynor> awol*

[16:08:35] <dstufft> Did it get fixed in the 1.5.X branch

[16:08:44] <Alex_Gaynor> not sure

[16:08:51] <Alex_Gaynor> I'll check

[16:09:54] <Alex_Gaynor> dstufft: I think yes, based on https://github.com/pypa/pip/commits/1.5.X

[16:11:37] <dstufft> I can probably cut a release later today if there's no objections on the ML

[16:12:42] <Alex_Gaynor> Tthat'd be awesome <3 thanks

[16:13:26] <dstufft> message sent to the ML

[16:13:36] <dstufft> I should really get around to finishing automating our release

[16:14:15] <dstufft> but I think to do that we need to get a lot better at things like "Make sure there are changelog entries"

[16:15:03] <dstufft> Alex_Gaynor: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/pypa-dev/70FCiCKbQtk fwiw

[17:08:35] <dstufft> Roll out of the *.pypa.io SSL certificate should be starting sometime around now

[17:08:51] <dstufft> so soon we should be able to get some TLS for bootstrap.pypa.io

[21:20:43] <dstufft> so

[21:20:47] <dstufft> I guess I'll cut a pip release

[21:21:50] <dstufft> /cc Alex_Gaynor

[21:21:56] <Alex_Gaynor> dstufft: thank you so so so so much

[21:23:00] <dstufft> one of these days i'm going to get around to submitting a patch that adds ensurepip to pypy too

[21:24:32] <Alex_Gaynor> yayayayaya

[21:25:16] <dstufft> Alex_Gaynor: If I do ensurepip y'all should do venv too

[21:25:43] <Alex_Gaynor> dstufft: please! I have no idea what goes into that though

[21:25:56] <dstufft> there's some interpreter changes

[21:26:08] <Alex_Gaynor> yeah, if you can tell us what those are, we can do them

[21:26:10] <dstufft> I don't really understand them, something in the C starup stuff

[21:26:13] <dstufft> sure

[21:27:03] <dstufft> I want to make it so that virtualenv will use venv as the virtualization engine if it's available

[21:27:06] <dstufft> instead of using hacks

[21:34:08] <dstufft> I wonder what I do on my browser the most: http://cl.ly/image/0C0y123F1Z1I

[21:36:47] <dstufft> tests so slow :[

[21:36:58] <Alex_Gaynor> lol

[22:11:06] <dstufft> Fastly Certificate deploy is complete

[22:11:10] <dstufft> gonna update some DNS

[22:20:42] <dstufft> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/

[22:21:03] <EWDurbin> ^that's cool^

[22:36:03] <pmxbot> jaraco pushed 1 commit to setuptools (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/) :

[22:36:03] <pmxbot> Updated references to bootstrap module to use new bootstrap.pypa.io locations. Fixes #192.

[22:50:38] <dstufft> https://pip.pypa.io https://virtualenv.pypa.io/

[22:51:33] <dstufft> also https://warehouse.pypa.io/

[22:51:54] <dstufft> and someday we'll have https://setuptools.pypa.io/ but first we need to get setuptools properly building on RTD :]

[22:52:15] <dstufft> spekaing of which, jaraco did you want the setuptools name? I can ask eric to give it to you

[22:54:34] <jaraco> dstufft: I'm not particular about it. I'd rather it be owned by the group rather than myself.

[22:54:46] <jaraco> Does RTD support that?

[22:54:51] <dstufft> jaraco: well RTD doesn't have orgs really, but you can add multiple people

[22:55:03] <jaraco> oh, that's suitable, then.

[22:55:11] <dstufft> your name on RTD is jaraco?

[22:55:16] <jaraco> it is

[22:55:21] <dstufft> I'll poke him and ask

[22:55:34] <dstufft> I might try getting it to build on there so we can get setuptools.pypa.io working

[22:56:02] <jaraco> that'd be awesome

[22:56:05] <jaraco> !thanks dstufft

[22:56:05] <pmxbot> you're doing good work, dstufft!

[22:57:48] <dstufft> still need to figure out what do with pypa.io

[22:57:57] <dstufft> maybe I'll just make a pypa-index.readthedocs.org

[22:58:01] <dstufft> which just links to the subprojects

[23:40:22] <dstufft> jimbaker: this'll be in jython trunk for right now yea?

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