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[11:25:48] <dstufft> WELP, MAL +1'd PEP 470 in concept. I am seriously surprised.

[12:48:48] <jezdez> dstufft: wooo!

[12:49:17] <dstufft> jezdez: that was not the email I expected when I saw MAL commented on that thread

[12:49:20] <dstufft> like

[12:49:21] <dstufft> at all

[12:49:29] <jezdez> well, I guess it makes sense

[12:49:45] <dstufft> I was sure that the discussion was going to end up being MAL/Stefan demanding that pip process external crap by default

[12:49:51] <dstufft> and everyone else not wanting that

[12:49:57] <dstufft> and just stalemateing

[12:50:21] <jezdez> it allows his company's workflow, and that's the important thing for him in that discussion, I believe

[12:50:39] <jezdez> even better if --extra-index-url gets some more attention

[12:50:46] <jezdez> hopefully a new name as well LOL

[12:52:04] <dstufft> yea we have --index-url, --extra-index-url, and --find-links which all provide extremely similar but slightly different things

[12:52:13] <dstufft> i'd love to figure out a way to unite those concepts

[12:52:44] <dstufft> (we also have --no-index which can be thrown in there for good measure)

[12:52:49] <jezdez> ideally by making the locator smarter and accept both a find-liks capable url as well as a simple api

[12:53:00] <jezdez> then have only one --index option

[12:53:03] <jezdez> which defaults to pypi

[12:53:14] <jezdez> disable pypi by adding a new one called --no-pypi

[12:53:37] <jezdez> --no-index would be moot

[12:54:13] <dstufft> yea my current thinking is that we have a singular --index option, and the locator can just determine what kind of URL it's dealing with. And either have it be "if you specify --index, it overrides the list and you have to also provide the PyPI URL" or "--index is always additive and there is an additional flag you can pass to turn off the defaut"

[12:54:56] <jezdez> heh, same thoughts

[12:54:58] <jezdez> make it so

[12:55:19] <jezdez> I wonder if we could move to using distlib's locator api for this

[12:55:33] <jezdez> as it already has a fallback system for multiple locators

[12:56:19] <dstufft> if PEP 470 goes through, the only real difference between --find-links and --index-url is that --find-links points to an exact url, and can also be a file url on it's own, and --index-url does the /<project>/<version>/, /<project>/, /, fallback thing

[12:56:47] <dstufft> so it shouldn't be too hard to unite them

[12:57:16] <dstufft> the big question would be whether it would be a bad thing to tack on extra stuff to the end of a find-links URL

[12:57:53] <dstufft> I need to play around with it more, probably will after PEP470 (hopefully) lands

[13:02:53] <jezdez> cool, dstufft