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[03:34:04] <Ivo> dhellmann: you figure out what the tests/ dir is for in setuptools if setuptools/tests/ exist as well?

[05:07:52] <Arfrever> jaraco: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools (version 4.0.1) references https://bootstrap.pypa.io/ez_setup.py which hardcodes version 3.5.1.

[05:12:29] <Ivo> Arfrever: likely bootstrap.pypa.io hasn't updated its ez_setup.py then, which dstufft setup

[05:13:06] <Arfrever> jaraco || jaraco_ || jaraco__: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools (version 4.0.1) references https://bootstrap.pypa.io/ez_setup.py which hardcodes version 3.5.1.

[10:17:19] <Arfrever> jaraco: ping

[10:18:24] <jaraco> Arfrever, pong

[10:18:38] <Arfrever> jaraco: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools (version 4.0.1) references https://bootstrap.pypa.io/ez_setup.py which hardcodes version 3.5.1.

[10:18:40] <jaraco> to answer your earlier question...

[10:18:59] <jaraco> right. I think the bootstrap update cron job is not working.

[10:19:36] <Ivo> Arfrever: https://github.com/pypa/pypa-salt/tree/master/bootstrap is supposed to be the code that sets up the server to serve the right ez_setup.py

[10:21:07] <Ivo> hmm, maybe not that folder directly, but that repo anyway

[10:21:20] <Arfrever> Has anybody heard about a problem with usage of ez_setup.py / Setuptools and Python 2.7.7 behind a proxy?

[10:23:30] <jaraco> I have not.

[10:24:44] <Arfrever> jaraco: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512192

[10:25:21] <Arfrever> jaraco: Reporter of this problem has problem when using Python 2.7.7 and does not have problem after downgrading to Python 2.7.6.

[10:26:13] <Ivo> jaraco: which branch should ez_setup.py come from?

[10:26:28] <jaraco> Ivo, the 'bootstrap' bookmark in the default branch.

[10:29:04] <Ivo> jaraco: if i go to the bitbucket ui, go to source, click on the branch dropdown and choose boostrap, it gives me an error that branch bootstrap does not exist

[10:29:19] <Ivo> bad / expected?

[10:29:33] <jaraco> sounds like a bitbucket bug

[10:31:31] <jaraco> although it gives the error, it does seem to be updating to that bookmark

[10:31:49] <jaraco> (as the DEFAULT_VERSION in ez_setup.py shows 4.0.1)

[10:34:13] <Ivo> hmm, well files in bootstrap.pypa.io were last updated 4th may

[10:34:48] <Ivo> dstufft: ppppppping

[10:35:18] <jaraco> dstufft: I created #214

[10:35:23] <jaraco> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/issue/214/bootstrap-script-not-updating-on

[10:35:48] <jaraco> also Arfrever ^

[10:35:53] <Ivo> jaraco: itll be something wrong in https://github.com/pypa/pypa-salt/

[10:36:13] <Ivo> trying to make sense of all the salt states atm

[10:36:16] <jaraco> I looked through there and I don't see anything that references the update code.

[10:36:43] <jaraco> aha: https://github.com/pypa/pypa-salt/blob/fe6c43bc425d100f1e85ebbd0692cb0d111caa95/states/web/bootstrap/init.sls

[10:37:06] <Ivo> I *think* this might be supposed to relaunch salt state... https://github.com/pypa/pypa-salt/blob/master/states/base/autostate.sls#L2-L6

[10:50:43] <Ivo> hacking on it now, some stuff not right yet

[11:07:14] <Ivo> namely, https://github.com/pypa/pypa-salt/issues/5

[11:59:12] <Ivo> jaraco, Arfrever from what I can tell I've updated it for now.. seems there might be some caching going on for the moment as I'm still downloading 3.5.1

[12:33:45] <Ivo> jaraco: is there a reason you released a 3.7.1 but not 3.8.1?

[13:34:43] <Ivo> dstufft: if theres a cache in front of bootstrap.pypa.io, how long does it cache for?

[13:51:20] <Ivo> web.pypa.io tells me it has 4.0.1 ez_setup.py and the index at bootstrap.pypa.io says they've been updated, but still serving 3.5.1 :S

[15:19:15] <dhellmann> Ivo: I didn't run into that issue, so I'm not sure what you mean.

[15:32:06] <Ivo> dhellmann: well setuptools just has two different tests directories, so I essentially wondering why there isn't one

[15:32:10] <Ivo> and if we should be running both

[15:32:35] <Ivo> see my PR? :)

[16:31:06] <dstufft> Ivo sorry I had to go to a dentist so I wasn't around really

[16:31:22] <Ivo> still managed to merge stuff!

[16:31:31] <dstufft> Ivo: FWIW you can purge the caches on those at any time, just do curl -X PURGE https://bootstrap.pypa.io/ez_setup.py or whatever url you want to purge

[16:31:36] <dstufft> it's unauthenticated to do so

[16:33:19] <Ivo> woo

[16:33:35] <Ivo> dstufft: is there an easy way to do that without curl? its not installed by default on web.pypa.io

[16:33:50] <dstufft> uh

[16:33:52] <dstufft> I dunno

[16:34:01] <dstufft> anything that can make a HTTP request really

[16:34:11] <Ivo> maybe a python script..

[16:34:12] <dstufft> it's just a HTTP request with verb PURGE

[16:42:51] <dstufft> Ivo: you can install curl on the machines too if you want, idc. Just use a salt state to do it

[16:43:10] <Ivo> feels dirty

[16:51:34] <dhellmann> Ivo: I have no idea about the 2 test directories. :-) I saw the notification of your PR, but haven't had a chance to review it yet. I have it on my todo list, though.

[16:52:00] <Ivo> aiight, no worries

[17:48:06] <davidovich> Hi, did someone have time to look at https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1846 ?