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[11:09:27] <ionelmc> how should this be fixed https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/blob/master/setup.py#L144-L148 ?

[11:09:48] <ionelmc> it imports stuff from numpy but that might not be available at the time setup.py in run

[11:48:47] <agronholm> I wonder what makes numpy/scipy so special that they need their special setup thing

[12:17:24] <Ivo> ionelmc: it doesn't, scipy people specifically leave it broke like that

[12:18:35] <Ivo> his is a problem that numpy should work towards solving as well, then. I imagine that the new wheel format that's gaining traction should solve a lot of issues with binaries.

[12:18:39] <Ivo> ** https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/issues/2569

[12:20:39] <ionelmc> Ivo: wouldnt specifying numpy in setup_requires solve this problem?

[12:20:59] <ionelmc> the egg_info doesnt import numpy

[12:21:39] <Ivo> it imports numpy before setuptools would get to setup_requires

[12:22:13] <Ivo> maybe not

[12:22:24] <Ivo> I forget what trickery setuptools does with setup_requires

[12:24:14] <Ivo> still, they don't use setuptools' setup..

[12:24:24] <Ivo> I dunno, feel free to submit a pull request

[13:12:58] <ionelmc> Ivo: now i've read the bug report, oh wow

[13:25:07] <ionelmc> does this look farfetched https://gist.github.com/ionelmc/15f26016c4b2060e0227 ?