[18:48:23] <dstufft> there was someone in here earlier saying that they had a test where removing a function (which just did a print statement) caused the tests to lock up
[18:48:30] <dstufft> maybe there's some sort of race condition being exposed
[19:39:10] <dstufft> of course it doens't freeze for me
[19:39:44] <dstufft> wonder if this is an ubnutu 12.04 thing
[20:48:48] <jimbaker> dstufft, hey, just wanted to let you know we fixed the blocking cjk encoding support in jython. with that, i was able to update https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/pull/150
[20:48:57] <jimbaker> hopefully we can get that approved soon
[21:19:54] <jimbaker> so next on my list is ensurepip support, as well as virtualenv support via venv
[21:20:49] <jimbaker> dstufft, btw, can one install pypa virtualenv and venv in parallel, or is that disallowed some way?
[21:21:05] <dstufft> well venv comes with Python 3.4, you can't install it seperately
[21:21:12] <dstufft> and virtualenv runs fine on 3.4
[21:22:25] <dstufft> jimbaker: if html5lib merges that and releases it within the next month or so it'll make it into pip 1.6
[21:22:30] <jimbaker> ok, just want to understand any possible implications. anyway, i believe it continues to make sense to backport venv to jython, assuming that's not a crazy amount of work. (the runtime considerations we can readily handle)
[21:23:18] <dstufft> jimbaker: basically backporting venv is primarily, modifying the startup of the intepreter so that it'll make a sys.path which is relative to a particular file if that file exists
[21:23:20] <jimbaker> dstufft, mind adding a comment like that to https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/pull/150 ?
[21:23:47] <dstufft> the rest of it is just some pure python code, but it's really that intense, it primarily just creates a directory structure and adds that file