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[00:10:41] <dstufft> jaraco: another question! Right now setuptools has markerlib vendored as a top level _markerlib, pip vendors stuff inside of pip._vendor.wahtever, would you prefer having packaging as _packaging or setuptools._vendor.packaging ?

[00:11:31] <jaraco> dstufft, the latter is better.

[00:11:52] <jaraco> _markerlib isn't actually vendored anymore, but is a fork that's diverged from the official release.

[00:11:55] <dstufft> ah

[00:12:10] <jaraco> so setuptools owns two unique marker implementations.

[00:12:12] <jaraco> :/

[00:12:39] <dstufft> is there some command flags I can use to make setuptools install something into a particular directory as an unpacked egg... or would it be better to just use pip do that?

[00:14:00] <jaraco> dstufft, I'm not sure. Probably just use pip if you're talking about a manual vendoring process. If it's something that has to happen mechanically (i.e. when running builds or continuous integration), I'd rather it not require pip.

[00:14:13] <dstufft> yea this is manual

[00:14:27] <dstufft> it's just "whenever you want to update your vendored stuff, run this"

[00:14:36] <jaraco> That's fine.

[01:03:43] <dstufft> http://bpaste.net/show/d978bb7b96ad \o/

[16:21:43] <dstufft> jaraco: did you see https://github.com/jaraco/setuptools/pull/13 btw?