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[19:32:15] <pf_moore> dstufft: you around?

[19:32:36] <dstufft> pf_moore: sup

[19:33:13] <pf_moore> Just got a question from Tim Golden about the get-pip experience on Python 2.7/Windows

[19:33:27] <pf_moore> Are there any plans to backport the ensurepip stuff to 2.7 that you know of?

[19:33:43] <dstufft> yes

[19:33:54] <dstufft> http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0477/

[19:34:08] <dstufft> I need to actually do that :/

[19:34:36] <pf_moore> Cool - I knew I'd seen something. ensurepip plus having the user's PATH set up is a huge improvement in experience.

[19:34:49] <pf_moore> If you need any help with it, shout out.

[19:35:21] <dstufft> I don't know if there's any PATH stuff for 2.7

[19:36:04] <dstufft> (also I just realized, PEP 477 means that in the future we can delete get-pip.py \o/)

[19:36:04] <pf_moore> I'm not sure either. I'll do some digging and if there isn't see if we can get it added. It's "just" an installer change so may be relatively non-controversial

[19:37:10] <pf_moore> Yeah, Tim just talked me through the user experience with get-pip on 2.7 for a naive Windows user. It's easy to forget how horrible it is when all you're used to is point and click stuff

[19:37:30] <dstufft> I tried to make a msi at one point

[19:37:34] <dstufft> but I got frustrated

[19:38:11] <pf_moore> Yeah, I'm not surprised. I think something like Inno setup may be nicer, I may take a look at that.

[19:39:07] <pf_moore> An installer that runs get-pip may be a reasonable stopgap, but honestly PEP 477 would be the better solution.

[19:42:54] <pf_moore> On another note, appveyor for building Windows binary wheels looks pretty good. They've agreed to add the 64-bit Python interpreters, now all I need to do is get them to add the 64-bit compilers in the SDKs, and getting wheels becomes simple.

[19:43:19] <pf_moore> And then I just need to set myself up a blog so I can document the process and publicise it :-)

[19:43:56] <pf_moore> Oh, and we might want to look at appveyor for Windows-based testing of pip.

[19:44:08] <pf_moore> So many projects, so little time :-)

[19:44:21] <dstufft> I know that feeling

[21:57:33] <codepython777> Alex_Gaynor: ping. I had a few questions about this repo and what you are planning to do with it.

[22:12:58] <Alex_Gaynor> codepython777: ?

[22:26:25] <codepython777> Hi Alex_Gaynor

[22:27:00] <codepython777> whats the plan for searching the pypi database at this point when the user queries the db/app?

[22:27:34] <codepython777> I'm currently using bandersnatch to mirror pypi, can i use this codebase to mirror ? Will it give me details like #downloads etc?

[22:27:58] <Alex_Gaynor> I'm not sure why you're asking me

[22:28:32] <codepython777> ok- for a given package, all the metadata - how do you get that into pypa-dev?

[22:30:13] <codepython777> where are you getting this data from? https://warehouse.python.org/project/signxml/

[22:30:18] <codepython777> and how

[23:00:35] <dstufft> it's coming from the PyPI database

[23:00:42] <dstufft> there's no ingestion routines in warehouse yet

[23:00:53] <dstufft> right now it's just another view of of the PyPI DB

[23:03:59] <lifeless> dstufft: but of course not here right now :P

[23:04:10] <dstufft> heh

[23:04:17] <dstufft> jaraco is normally around during the day US time