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[00:42:51] <dstufft> lifeless: debugging a werid test fail on a PR

[00:43:01] <dstufft> and travis is going really slow

[01:03:45] <lifeless> ugh

[01:03:47] <lifeless> gl

[01:03:52] <lifeless> -> dinner thingy time

[15:51:16] <lifeless> dstufft: morning!

[15:52:08] <dstufft> lifeless: morning, be right back, grabbing lunch from the corner store down the block

[15:52:49] <lifeless> dstufft: cool; do you live mid-antlantic?

[15:54:07] <dstufft> lifeless: Philadelphia suburbs, so East Coast USA

[16:50:24] <lifeless> dstufft: welcome back :)

[16:51:21] <dstufft> lifeless: thanks!

[18:37:34] <ztane> what is the procedure to take over a pypi porject :D

[18:40:29] <dstufft> ztane: depends, if you contact the original author and they give you the name, then it's easy, they just add you to the project

[18:40:37] <dstufft> ztane: if it's a "hostile" take over... that's a bit harder

[18:54:37] <ztane> dstufft: the hostile ofc :P I am just thinking if the original author cannot even be contacted...

[18:54:42] <ztane> "hostile"

[21:15:32] <dstufft> qwcode: ping

[21:16:00] <qwcode> dstufft, hey, running out to pick up my son... unless it's quick

[21:16:45] <dstufft> qwcode: you can decid eif it's quick or not: I'm thinking about getting rid of the implicit debug log all together because I don't think anyone really use sit and it causes cache directory churn (matters on things like travis that upload a new cache anytime it changes), thoughts?

[21:18:44] <qwcode> dstufft, I never use it. I'm ok with it. would --log-file go quiet as an option, and then disappear later?

[21:19:13] <dstufft> qwcode: --log-file would still exist, this is just the implicit, always on deubg log

[21:19:42] <qwcode> qwcode, --log-file is for this log.

[21:19:54] <qwcode> qwcode, --log-file <path> Path to a verbose non-appending log, that only logs failures. This log is active by default at /home/qwcode/.pip/pip.log.

[21:20:51] <qwcode> yike, that's from 1.5... not looking at v6

[21:21:31] <dstufft> qwcode: yea in pip 6 --log is off by default, there's an alway son debug log you can't disable

[21:21:36] <dstufft> I'm just going to rm -rf it

[21:22:42] <qwcode> ok, in v6 you combined them "--log", "--log-file"

[21:23:13] <dstufft> yea

[21:23:19] <qwcode> roger, gotta run

[21:23:29] <dstufft> see ya!