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[00:13:19] <agronholm> hmm, new pip release soonish?
[04:22:39] <lifeless> dstufft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqVWzndh374
[05:15:14] <tchaypo> lifeless: https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/pull-requests/141/first-draft-of-an-implementation-of-pep/diff#comment-None is my pull requiest
[05:16:05] <tchaypo> it’s definitely incomplete, but I think there’s enough there to review
[05:25:00] <dstufft> tchaypo: I think it'd be better to implement it in github.com/pypa/packaging and then just have pkg_resources use it, unless jaraco doesn't want that
[05:25:54] <tchaypo> I think by “use it” you mean “vendor in the new version”, is that right?
[05:26:33] <tchaypo> that seems reasonable to me
[05:31:28] <lifeless> yeah
[06:41:30] <dstufft> lifeless: fwiw direct references won't be allowed on PyPI
[06:41:34] <dstufft> (watching your video)
[06:41:49] <dstufft> we'll just block any uploads
[06:47:20] <lifeless> dstufft: yes
[06:47:29] <lifeless> dstufft: like I said, I tangled myself up a couple of times
[06:47:33] <lifeless> dstufft: I know the plan:)
[06:47:58] <lifeless> dstufft: the problem with blocking uploads is that today, thats a turing complete interpretation problem
[06:48:14] <lifeless> dstufft: so, we have a ways to go to get to the point where we can do that
[06:52:15] <dstufft> lifeless: --find-links isn't techincally deprecated, but dependency_links is. The difference is --find-links is controlled by the person invoking pip and dependency_links is controlled by the person making the package, which is a bad deal (but dependency_links is implemented by just appending it to find-links)
[07:09:26] <dstufft> lifeless: just finished the vid, it was pretty good :D
[19:24:30] <lifeless> dstufft: thanks