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[00:16:14] <transit> Does setuptools use old-style classes for backwards compatibility or because no one has taken the time to make that update?

[00:26:36] <dstufft> transit: hard to say

[00:26:44] <dstufft> probably mostly the second thing

[00:40:20] <transit> Where's a good place to get an idea of the development plan & possibly volunteer some time to contribute?

[16:41:36] <ronny> dstufft: ping?

[17:31:37] <pmxbot> jaraco pushed 2 commits to setuptools (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/) :

[17:31:37] <pmxbot> Update python3 docs to indicate that 2to3 is mildly deprecated, and removing legacy details.

[17:31:37] <pmxbot> Remove documentation on merge, now relevant only for posterity (reference in the source tree).

[17:41:05] <pmxbot> jaraco pushed 2 commits to setuptools (https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/) :

[17:41:05] <pmxbot> Update documentation to reflect no integrated SCM support.

[17:41:05] <pmxbot> Remove cruft from Subclassing section

[18:25:34] <xafer> Hello, wondering if it makes sense to allow "--pre" and "--process-dependency-links" in the req files ?

[18:30:25] <xafer> (whether I should merge https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3008 and https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3031)

[18:45:30] <dstufft> --process-dependency-links, probably

[18:46:00] <dstufft> --pre idk, I kinda feel like folks should just use >=0.dev0 on things they want it for, but I dont have an explicit complaint against it

[21:13:45] <dstufft> xafer: you're doing great work :)

[21:17:46] <xafer> thanks :)

[21:20:08] <xafer> I was wondering about the "canonical" name of packages

[21:21:16] <xafer> pip's code is stuffed with pkg_resources.safe_name(xxx).lower()

[21:26:02] <xafer> maybe this should go in packaging ?

[21:51:05] <dstufft> xafer: it will once PEP 426 is formalized

[22:27:48] <xafer> k