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[15:29:52] <ErikRose> dstufft: Hey, how's HP? Are you remoting, or do you have to go to an office?

[15:30:28] <dstufft> ErikRose: I am remote yea, I enjoy it though Id on't really interact much with HP other than they hand me a check twice a month

[15:30:48] <ErikRose> If you had to pick one interaction, that's a good one.

[15:31:12] <ErikRose> I used to subcontract for HP as my first gig out of school.

[15:31:25] <ErikRose> During school, actually

[21:50:42] <lifeless> dstufft: so hi

[21:50:44] <lifeless> dstufft: https://github.com/testing-cabal/mock/issues/321

[21:51:28] <dstufft> lol Extras

[21:51:34] <dstufft> oh

[21:51:35] <dstufft> fuck

[21:51:36] <dstufft> six is in extras now?

[21:54:57] <dstufft> lifeless: the tl;dr is that Extras is some OSX crap where Apple puts the stuff they preinstall (Ok fine, give it it's own dir that's cool), but they put it on the sys.path _before_ site-packages

[21:55:07] <dstufft> so if something is in Extras, you can't upgrade it with pip

[21:56:19] <lifeless> dstufft: so yeah, I'm fighting these reports at regular intervals now

[21:56:40] <lifeless> dstufft: I'm wondering if pip should grow some error mode w.r.t. anything it installs that won't be importable

[21:57:02] <lifeless> dstufft: with perhaps argparse and wsgiref special cased to not complain

[21:57:10] <dstufft> https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2468

[21:57:34] <dstufft> https://caremad.io/s/luq9WHBXql/ that's what's there on El Capitan

[21:58:23] <lifeless> dstufft: the --user patch from Ubuntu has a similar side effect

[21:58:39] <dstufft> I'm real mad about distro packages lately.

[21:58:56] <dstufft> downstream should stop randomly patching shit.

[22:00:10] <lifeless> dstufft: sure

[22:02:52] <dstufft> gotta run get dinner