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[00:19:39] <Ivo> dstufft: ping?

[00:46:35] <dstufft> Ivo: sorry, things are a little distracted right now

[01:26:18] <Ivo> dstufft: lemme know when you have the time :)

[02:33:34] <dstufft> I got annoyed at https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2468 and https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1480 and not having a good solution

[02:33:42] <dstufft> I emailed Tim Cook half jokingly about it

[02:34:01] <dstufft> it got forwarded it to the SW Development Manager for Python on OSX.

[02:34:04] <dstufft> so

[02:34:05] <dstufft> that's a thing

[02:35:14] <willingc> dstufft You are awesome.

[02:35:55] <dstufft> I did not actually expect an answer

[02:36:08] <willingc> if you don't ask...

[02:37:18] <dstufft> Of course, I have no idea if tim cook actually reads that address or if he has some assistant who reads it and forwards it or wahtever, and of course no idea if they're going to do anything about it or just acknowledge it's a thing and then tell met o go away

[02:37:27] <dstufft> but hey, this is further then we'd gotten previosuly!

[02:37:34] <willingc> :D

[04:53:52] <Ivo> dstufft: I'm thinking changing "Successfully installed numpy-1.8.0rc1"

[04:54:23] <Ivo> to e.g, "Successfully installed numpy-1.8.0rc1 (in /usr/lib/python/2.7/site-packages)"

[04:54:28] <Ivo> would be a great idea...

[06:29:04] <Ivo> dstufft: you know why you need --pre in here? https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/develop/tox.ini#L12

[10:35:31] <Ivo> so who knows whats creating all the travis build failures for pip D: