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[04:29:34] <lifeless> dstufft: when do you think we'll drop 3.2 and/or 2.6 ?

[11:14:55] <dstufft> lifeless: pip drops 3.2 in pip 8

[11:15:00] <dstufft> lifeless: 2.6 is idk

[11:15:04] <dstufft> whenever it's usage is low

[16:24:02] <xafer> https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3196 should be fairly quick to review if someone wants to take a look

[17:55:50] <lifeless> dstufft: got some time for pip reviews ?

[17:56:11] <lifeless> dstufft: 2937 and 3105 are getting long in the tooth

[18:00:03] <dstufft> lifeless: I can in a few hours. I'm going to be leaving in 5-10 minutes for a dentist appointment

[18:05:51] <dstufft> https://hynek.me/articles/testing-packaging/

[18:09:45] <lifeless> dstufft: cool; I'm not saying they're 100% but AIUI Nakato does need feedback

[18:09:55] <dstufft> okay

[18:09:58] <dstufft> heading out now!

[18:11:45] <lifeless> dstufft: nice article

[18:12:03] <lifeless> dstufft: gives me some ideas for glueing tox into https://github.com/testing-cabal/testrepository/pull/13

[21:38:04] <ErikRose> r

[22:23:59] <ErikRose> Anyone know offhand how to use pdb within a script.pip()?

[22:44:22] <qwcode> ErikRose, I've used winpdb in the past for attaching to "embedded" pythons http://winpdb.org/docs/embedded-debugging/

[22:44:56] <ErikRose> thx

[22:45:58] <lifeless> there's also rpdb

[22:46:15] <lifeless> ErikRose: or you can hack up the script helper to attach stdin/stdout

[22:48:39] <ErikRose> I kludged around it with log files, revealing a weirder issue: something's messing with sys.path under test, and pip doesn't find the wheel module.

[22:54:45] <lifeless> ErikRose: well, have you installed it in the test environment ?

[22:55:49] <ErikRose> If you're referring to the tox env, I'm not running under tox atm.

[22:56:04] <lifeless> no

[22:56:14] <lifeless> the functional tests make their own venvs and so on

[22:56:43] <ErikRose> ah

[22:56:47] <ErikRose> No, I'm in a unit test atm.

[22:57:10] <ErikRose> But that does explain something that was going on earlier.

[22:57:18] <lifeless> so 'unit' is not well defined for pip :)

[22:57:32] <ErikRose> "not the ones that take 5 seconds each" :-)