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[03:20:03] <pypabot> Deployed 41c5408 to Warehouse (Production)

[12:51:28] <Ivo> dstufft: I added two fixes to virtualenv, but particularly https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/pull/843 could be very annoying for zsh'ers until its released

[12:51:52] <dstufft> oh is that why I've been seeing that errro

[12:54:32] <Ivo> I went `man unset` and the text said it was a posix standard and that `unset -f` on a non-existing function shouldn't be considered an error

[12:57:27] <Ivo> You Were The Posix Standard! You Were Supposed To Unify Unix Behaviour, Not Get Ignored Half The Time!

[13:35:09] <Ivo> dstufft: is your hostname really mad-at-distros atm?

[13:35:44] <dstufft> Ivo: my Rackspace account is almost 100% used for debugging issues with pip on random distros

[13:35:51] <dstufft> so typically I'm using a distro in anger

[13:36:24] <Ivo> dayum

[13:37:36] <Ivo> I could imagine your blood boiling for the nth time when you found that everyone's SSL CA stores are broken in nicely different ways

[20:40:18] <ErikRose_> Hmm, get-pip.py connects to the 'net. Unexpected.

[20:41:27] <dstufft> whyse that unexpected

[20:42:32] <ErikRose_> I just figured with a 1.5MB archive, it'd be all self-contained.

[20:43:06] <dstufft> ah

[20:43:14] <dstufft> so it totally has a copy of pip bundled inside of get-pip.py

[20:43:25] <dstufft> which it then uses to go fetch itself again from PyPI :D

[20:43:36] <ErikRose> Ah, a real bootstrapper :-)

[20:43:36] <dstufft> (but also setuptools and wheel from PyPI, which isn't bundled)

[20:44:01] <dstufft> https://github.com/pypa/get-pip/blob/master/template.py#L3-L21

[20:44:02] <ErikRose> Yep, my test was to see whether setuptools was included.

[20:44:31] <dstufft> it accepts the same CLI args pip does though

[20:44:35] <dstufft> so you can make it offline if you want

[20:44:41] <dstufft> you just need to collect the wheels too

[20:45:02] <dstufft> python get-pip.py --find-links wheels/ --no-index

[20:45:24] <dstufft> can through an --isolated on there too, if you're worried about people have extra locations in their pip config file

[20:46:19] <ErikRose> It's Friday, so I'm twiddling around with how to make one's VCS checkout a trust root without peep, now that pip 8 exists.

[20:47:17] <ErikRose> Nice work getting 8.0.1 and 8.0.2 out the door so fast, btw!

[20:50:03] <dstufft> thanks :]

[23:20:55] <ErikRose> Somebody tell me I'm insane, and I'll step off the ledge: https://github.com/erikrose/pipstrap

[23:21:14] <Method__> just cause I enjoy rocking boats, you're insane ErikRose

[23:21:30] <ErikRose> Lucky I chose this nice stable ledge instead of a boat :-)

[23:21:39] <Method__> lol