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[00:37:55] <StevenK> dstufft: https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3464 should be a quick approval

[00:40:17] <StevenK> dstufft: Thanks!

[00:40:24] <dstufft> np

[20:58:08] <ronny> dstufft, lifeless: quick ping wrt my mail about positive/negative markers

[21:01:45] <xafer> ronny, you might want to repost a link :)

[21:02:32] <lifeless> yah, please

[21:03:37] <xafer> but from what I recall, I think it might add a lot of complexity (what if a package requires A and another one -A ? etc)

[21:21:52] <lifeless> Nakato: StevenK: reviews needed?

[21:21:58] <lifeless> dstufft: ping - abstract build discussion stalled again

[21:22:06] <lifeless> ronny: url to the thread?

[21:22:15] <lifeless> ronny: or somethuing I can search my mail for?

[21:23:07] <xafer> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2015-December/027950.html

[21:24:12] <xafer> (I guess that's the one)

[21:27:18] <xafer> btw lifeless, any opinion on https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2994 ?

[21:34:21] <lifeless> xafer: sorry. saw the ping and got distracted then forgot. replied now

[21:38:01] <xafer> thanks, I understand you'd be in favor of dropping git+git@github.com:My/repo.git ?

[21:38:06] <lifeless> yes

[21:38:23] <xafer> glad we agree :)

[21:39:46] <xafer> But this will have to wait pip9 in several months

[21:40:26] <dstufft> lifeless: sorry, a bit swamped and leaving soon- birthday crap today though I don't really care about it heh

[21:40:47] <lifeless> oh, happy $person's birthday

[21:41:01] <lifeless> xafer: we can land a deprecation warning right away

[21:41:24] <xafer> yup, that's what I was thinking for 8.1

[21:52:59] <lifeless> does paul irc?

[21:55:32] <xafer> pfmoore ?

[21:58:20] <ErikRose> Happy birthday, dstufft, regardless of whether you care about it! :-)

[21:59:37] <dstufft> pfmoore comes into IRC from time to time

[21:59:43] <dstufft> ErikRose: thanks :]

[22:00:18] <xafer> happy birthday ^^

[22:13:09] <xafer> https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3450 seems simple enough but I'm not sure how this could be tested, travis runs on ubuntu which wont have this distinction

[22:19:38] <lifeless> xafer: shouldn't we be copying everything that was installed?

[22:21:03] <lifeless> xafer: yes; pfmoore

[22:27:54] <xafer> according to http://chat-logs.dcpython.org/search?term=pf_moore it happens but not so much recently :)

[22:28:46] <xafer> now that you say it, we might want to install more than juste purelib/platlib indeed :o

[22:30:23] <dstufft> --target is kind of broken a bit

[22:30:25] <dstufft> maybe

[22:30:32] <lifeless> maybe :)

[22:30:38] <dstufft> sas a concept

[22:30:39] <dstufft> as a*

[22:30:52] <dstufft> e.g. it just completely ignores data files, scripts, etc

[22:31:04] <dstufft> and I'm not sure how you'd even implement that in a way that wasn't just --prefix or --root

[22:32:01] <lifeless> why isn't it just prefix / root ?

[22:32:23] <lifeless> iow, whats the use case? can we delete it ?

[22:37:59] <dstufft> dunno the specific use case, we use it in pip itself to make it easier to do the vendoring (pip install -t pip/_vendor/ requests), I suspect it's something similar to that

[22:38:24] <dstufft> I haven't given it massive amounts of thought though

[22:38:30] <dstufft> but it seems like it's footgun-ish

[22:38:42] <xafer> :'(

[22:39:33] <dstufft> lifeless: fwiw https://github.com/pypa/packaging/pull/60

[22:39:53] <dstufft> guess that'd be better for the other channel atm

[22:58:43] <lifeless> :)

[23:05:38] <dstufft> ^ will make sure pip uses the same definition

[23:05:46] <dstufft> will make a bander PR later, gotta go make some food for now

[23:05:52] <dstufft> (unless someone beats me to it)

[23:08:17] <lifeless> dstufft: sanity check me

[23:08:22] <lifeless> dstufft: pip wheel foo

[23:08:31] <lifeless> dstufft: if foo or a dep already has a wheel, is a no-op, right ?

[23:08:46] <lifeless> (for the bits that already have wheels)

[23:15:29] <xafer> seems related to https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2657 ?

[23:20:47] <xafer> By the way, opinions on https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3379 ? and I'm going to bed :)

[23:21:51] <lifeless> xafer: hmm, not really

[23:23:00] <lifeless> xafer: I think the status quo is correct

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