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[03:58:17] <lifeless> ncoghlan: o/
[03:58:44] <ncoghlan> lifeless: ??
[03:59:51] <lifeless> ncoghlan: just saying hi :)
[04:00:11] <lifeless> ncoghlan: since seeing you on IRC is somewhat rare
[04:00:13] <ncoghlan> lifeless: ah, now I understand :)
[04:01:35] <ncoghlan> lifeless: aye, #pypa-dev was missing from the default channel list on my laptop, an oversight I only remedied just before heading to Hawaii last week :)
[04:01:45] <njs`> hey, people, hello
[07:50:10] <ronny> aloah
[07:50:16] <ronny> oh, hi ncoghlan
[07:57:53] <xafer> hello dstufft, a 8.1.2 pip release with https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3598 might be needed :o
[09:40:36] <graingert> heya, how does pip know not to show the progress bar when &>filename or on Jenkins/Bamboo
[09:40:50] <graingert> or pip | tee foo.txt etc
[09:42:31] <StevenK> graingert: Because the output isn't a tty
[09:42:55] <graingert> StevenK: where is the logic for that?
[09:42:59] <graingert> In progress?
[09:45:43] <StevenK> graingert: I'm not sure off the top of my head where the logic is, but that's the pattern -- if the output is a tty you can seek backward on the line and redraw so the progress bar fills up, and with a file or a pipe, you can't.
[09:48:19] <StevenK> graingert: Looks like pip uses a module, 'progress', https://pypi.python.org/pypi/progress
[09:53:45] <graingert> StevenK: looks like it is in progress
[09:54:00] <graingert> file.isatty