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[12:27:31] <gsnedders> I have failing tests in pip locally, but they're all in the functional tests. is there any way to run those under pip?

[12:28:28] <gsnedders> (well, there will be a way, but the question is how hackish!)

[12:28:33] <gsnedders> s/under pip/under pdb/

[14:12:11] <dstufft> gsnedders: heh. I rarely run the tests locally

[17:00:54] <lifeless> dstufft: around?

[17:01:09] <dstufft> lifeless: heya

[17:01:16] <lifeless> dstufft: hey

[17:01:34] <lifeless> dstufft: I'm trying to figure out why the funcsigs readme isn't rendered on pypi

[17:01:46] <lifeless> dstufft: it renders fine to html for me locally with rst2html.py

[17:01:48] <dstufft> lifeless: did you try readme-renderer ?

[17:02:00] <dstufft> pip install readme-renderer && python setup.py check -r -s

[17:02:01] <dstufft> or so

[17:02:08] <lifeless> dstufft: didn't know of it

[17:02:12] <dstufft> ah

[17:02:19] <dstufft> yea it's the same code that PyPI itself uses to render it

[17:02:47] <lifeless> thanks

[17:02:53] <lifeless> so looksl ike it renders in strict mode

[17:03:08] <lifeless> and the :func: cross references aren't handled there :(

[22:03:43] <gsnedders> dstufft: harder to debug on Travis :)

[22:04:37] <gsnedders> So upgrading version of pkg_resources for pip causes failures in the testsuite. Appears to be bug in setuptools. Yay.

[22:07:49] <StevenK> Yes, see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dist-extras

[22:20:36] <dstufft> gsnedders: oh, I sometimes run a single test locally

[22:20:44] <dstufft> using something like tox -e py34 -- -k whatevertest

[22:29:54] <gsnedders> StevenK: well, yes, but raising IndexError seems purely buggy

[22:30:57] <dstufft> inpossible

[22:31:00] <dstufft> pip has no bugs

[22:31:01] <dstufft> it is perfect

[22:31:10] <StevenK> It shouldn't be an IndexError, it should be an UndefinedEnvironmentName exception

[22:32:03] <StevenK> I'm still unsure of how to procede on that issue, I was going to try and discuss it with lifeless in person this week

[22:33:03] <StevenK> dstufft: All software has bugs, exept for TeX

[22:33:10] <StevenK> TeX has "porting issues"

[22:36:35] <gsnedders> StevenK: is there any bug open anywhere for it? I don't see any discussion of that anywhere, but I could be missing something

[22:37:00] <gsnedders> StevenK: the fix for https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3624 should partly be upgrade pkg_resources

[22:43:32] <StevenK> gsnedders: https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3583 already does half of that, then

[22:55:18] <gsnedders> StevenK: right

[22:57:04] <gsnedders> StevenK: is ther eany reason not to go to 20.4, which seems to be the last working release?

[22:58:16] <StevenK> Probably not, but 20.3.1 is what I've had up waiting for dstufft to merge it

[23:00:12] <gsnedders> ok, I've opened https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3626 with 20.4 as well as packaging 16.7 and the other half of #3624

[23:05:48] <gsnedders> And I think with that PR open I can stop my attempts to get environment markers consistent