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[11:59:49] <JosephBywater> Hi

[14:20:18] <sumanah> dstufft: hope your day is going well

[14:20:29] <dstufft> sumanah: heya, you as well :)

[14:20:48] <sumanah> dstufft: wismer is Matthew, who just emailed us about helping with JavaScript

[14:21:52] <sumanah> wismer: Donald is the lead on this project - his blog is https://caremad.io/ . We're lucky that Hewlett Packard Enterprise sponsors his time to work, full-time, on Python infrastructure.

[14:22:18] <wismer> that's great

[14:22:36] <sumanah> wismer: you still live in NYC? Donald lives in Philadelphia and I'm hoping that at some point we could actually get together for an afternoon to hack together :)

[14:23:34] <wismer> cool, I used to live in philly for 5 years. But yea, still in nyc.

[14:24:47] <sumanah> wismer: so, per https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/milestones we're working to replace the old Python Packaging Index. https://pypi.python.org/ is the old one. https://pypi.io/ is where you can play with the new system, called Warehouse.

[14:25:53] <sumanah> wismer: https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Ajavascript you can see the stuff labelled (tagged) "JavaScript" that we already know needs doing

[14:27:25] <sumanah> wismer: what do your next few weeks & months look like? I need to do some more assessing and estimating, but Nicole tentatively hopes we can pull the switch (so people use Warehouse instead of the old system) in August.

[14:28:09] <sumanah> wismer: She's nlh when she's here -- she is in Europe and right now this is volunteer work for her, so she usually works on it before her workday begins, so she is not here right now

[14:28:38] <sumanah> (she concentrates on frontend, Donald on backend, basically. and I'm helping with project management)

[14:29:17] <wismer> roger

[14:29:44] <wismer> yea I was recently laid off, so my time is indeterminate but I expect it will take me at least a month (highly optimistic) to a few months

[14:30:12] <wismer> and I definitely don't want to be spending all that time working on that - too exhausting

[14:34:03] <sumanah> wismer: my condolences on the layoff.

[14:34:37] <sumanah> wismer: oh, you mean you would find it too exhausting to work the entire time on Warehouse? understood

[14:34:53] <sumanah> wismer: are you looking for a new gig as well? paying I mean?

[14:49:29] <sumanah> I gotta reboot; talk with you later wismer

[14:53:42] <wismer> er I mean the job hunting part would be too exhausting full-time

[17:35:36] <sigmavirus24> dstufft: can you make me a "team maintainer" of twine committers?

[17:48:44] <dstufft> sigmavirus24: done

[18:42:44] <berker> dstufft: "docker start" is not needed here right? https://warehouse.readthedocs.io/development/getting-started/#quickstart-for-developers-with-docker-experience

[18:46:19] <dstufft> berker: I'm not even sure D: I certainly don't use it, but someone said they needed to at one point

[18:50:32] <berker> dstufft: it's not even a valid command so I guess it's not needed :)

[18:50:37] <berker> I will check again

[19:00:10] <dstufft> sigmavirus24: I think https://github.com/pypa/twine/pull/192 will fix (for some definition of fix) the recent "can't use test pypi, can't use internal repos" errors

[19:05:42] <sigmavirus24> dstufft: yeah, I'm not sure why I ordered that logic that way

[19:08:58] <dstufft> sigmavirus24: no worries!

[19:09:47] <dstufft> sigmavirus24: I think the order you had it in makes logical sense as you're tihnking of the condition, the order I put it in reads backwards in my head (which is why I wrote the comment, to explainw hy it was "backwards")

[19:12:48] <sigmavirus24> Fair.

[19:13:09] <sigmavirus24> I always forget about people using twine with something that's not twine

[19:16:48] <sigmavirus24> dstufft: that said, that work makes --skip-existing so much faster

[19:16:53] <sigmavirus24> so I'm happy with it

[19:16:58] <sigmavirus24> and 1.7.2 is tagged

[19:17:16] <dstufft> sigmavirus24: thanks a lot for the quick turn around :)

[19:17:33] <sigmavirus24> No worries