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#pypa-dev logs for Sunday the 15th of December, 2019
[20:07:02] <ronny> pradyunsg: is it able to vendor something like attrs or more-itertools already, wondering for pytest to reduce dependency diamond dependency potential
[21:39:22] <toad_polo> ronnypfannschmidt: I would really love it if pytest would vendor all its dependencies.
[21:40:01] <toad_polo> I don't like pulling in indirect dependencies in my tests, because it masks incorrectly declared dependencies in my application.
[21:54:13] <toad_polo> But I don't really care that much to argue the point. Do it or don't. It's annoying that pytest has dependencies and not difficult to fix, but do whatever you want.
[22:03:17] <ronny> toad_polo: its quite a shame that its practically and technically close impossible in python to have a library under test while the test framework internally uses a different version of it for its own use - it means one has to resort to ugly hacks for infrastructure projects and test tools
[22:05:07] <ronny> dependencies are good - they allow for better features, better platform coverage and better code - the story around them is jsut so awful that people try to fix the existence of dependencies by removal instead of making the story good