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[16:43:18] <ei8fdb> pradyunsg: hi! a question about the packaging summit topics - if no-one proposes any, what happens?

[17:23:42] <sangy> ei8fdb: the summit is cancelled and it becomes an improv comedy show

[17:33:23] <pradyunsg> ei8fdb: Python Packaging is not a solved problem, so I don't expect that to happen. If it does, expect toad_polo and techalchemy to do an improv comedy show. XD

[17:53:43] <sangy> adding to it, I think I'll be submitting some topic, although I'm swamped with things to do so I haven't had a chance to see how to so, unfortunately

[17:54:40] <ei8fdb> pradyunsg: LOL!

[17:55:11] <ei8fdb> pradyunsg: would you mind if i suggested some minor alterations to the survey?

[18:03:16] <ei8fdb> pradyunsg: https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/wiki/pycon-2020-user-research-plan

[18:03:48] <ei8fdb> Do you think we can discuss this plan in the repo issue tracker?

[18:04:09] <toad_polo> I don't think we have to worry about lack of topics to discuss.

[18:04:31] <toad_polo> It's sorta like planning for what happens if you run out of bugs at a sprint.

[18:05:05] <toad_polo> Though if it does happen that no one uses the form it's pretty easy to come up with enough topics to fill the day.

[18:05:26] <toad_polo> Since we have a backlog of stuff we never discussed last year (and we still have that list), plus the stuff people have already semi-proposed on the discourse.

[18:19:57] <techalchemy> ei8fdb, we can put whatever you want on the agenda i'm guessing

[18:49:21] <ei8fdb> toad_polo: cool. have a read of the https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/wiki/pycon-2020-user-research-plan and let me know if it makes sense.

[18:49:21] <ei8fdb> I know it seems like a lot of possibly unnecessary writing but its essentially the plan - what, when, how, with who.

[18:51:19] <ei8fdb> https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/issues/327

[18:59:49] <techalchemy> are you constraining your questions to pip or allowing people to talk about things they wish pip did

[19:36:13] <ei8fdb> techalchemy: good point. Will add that.

[19:38:10] <ei8fdb> done.

[19:39:45] <toad_polo> techalchemy: ei8fdb Are y'all going to register for the packaging summit?

[19:41:01] <toad_polo> cooperlees: Same question

[19:46:37] <cooperlees> I will if it does not overlap with the maintainers summit I'm organizing

[19:47:30] <cooperlees> Sweet - I'm Friday. So I am in.

[19:48:38] <cooperlees> toad_polo: sent

[19:49:35] <cooperlees> Even put it in my calendar

[19:49:37] <cooperlees> Dedicated

[20:07:31] <pradyunsg> ei8fdb: temme!

[20:08:33] <techalchemy> toad_polo, uh yes

[20:08:36] <techalchemy> i will be registering...

[20:08:47] <techalchemy> i have been procrastinating registering for pycon

[20:10:38] <pradyunsg> techalchemy: I promise registering for the summit wouldn't be too much effort. :P

[20:10:56] <techalchemy> i want to register for pycon first to make sure i'm not lying :p

[20:23:01] <cooperlees> You haven't registered yet?

[20:23:06] <cooperlees> Wow. I did in December or when ever it opened.

[20:30:02] <techalchemy> cooperlees, i'm just slow, i got approved back then but been busy

[20:30:11] <cooperlees> Priorities man!

[20:30:30] <techalchemy> yeah we have a deadline etc various other excuses

[20:30:59] <techalchemy> i'm personally creating an operating system

[20:31:15] <cooperlees> (I'm only joking)

[20:32:21] <techalchemy> we're the same person tbh

[20:32:27] <cooperlees> Except I'm way better

[20:32:31] <cooperlees> At something

[20:32:45] <cooperlees> I'm a much better Australian. Yeah, that's it.

[20:32:48] <techalchemy> registering for pycon at least

[20:32:54] <pradyunsg> XD

[20:33:11] <pradyunsg> techalchemy: I promise registering for the summit wouldn't be difficult.

[20:33:23] <techalchemy> can't you just like, put my name on some list

[20:34:16] <pradyunsg> Can't you like, click two buttons and type your name twice, so that I don't have to add a special case to my form magic? 🙃

[20:34:26] <techalchemy> its one of my literally 78 tabs that are opened of things to do

[20:34:46] <pradyunsg> Clearly, you need to open 2 more.

[20:34:54] <pradyunsg> Round numbers are good.

[20:34:55] <techalchemy> then i'll just have 2 more things to triage

[20:35:52] <pradyunsg> (I'm joking obviously here, don't take a 2am pradyunsg seriously, unless he tells you he's serious or it's a wall of text somewhere)

[20:36:41] <pradyunsg> techalchemy: work like a stack. :P

[20:55:48] <techalchemy> lol

[20:55:55] <techalchemy> i work more like a 'oh whats this shiny thing'

[21:43:55] <ei8fdb> toad_polo: I am (going to register) I just need to find the link (again).

[21:44:49] <ei8fdb> is there a bot to tell you the link?

[21:48:22] <ei8fdb> https://discuss.python.org/t/pycon-us-2020-packaging-summit-registration-and-topic-proposal/3341

[21:48:23] <ei8fdb> !

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