[22:45:43] <mrpackethead86> you love it, or hate it
[23:08:23] <techalchemy> do you know someone who loves jenkins?
[23:11:59] <tos9> it's terrible and better than the alternatives... that's still top of the scale for software isn't it?
[23:27:21] <techalchemy> hasn't gitlab mostly caught up yet?
[23:27:53] <techalchemy> anyway i feel like jenkins is used for too much stuff, when i ask what people use it for the answer seems to be like, flying to mars
[23:34:29] <tos9> idk we don't run gitlab maybe it's good
[23:34:39] <tos9> I don't really understand why a build system and a version control system should be the same thing
[23:35:08] <tos9> so I am suspicious of the idea, but who knows gitlab seems in general to be pretty sane so maybe they built a better mousetrap but it's attached to the bicycle they built