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[06:22:16] <pradyunsg> !help
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[06:22:35] <pradyunsg> !clap
[06:22:53] <pradyunsg> !seen dstufft
[06:22:53] <pmxbot> I last saw dstufft speak at 2020-01-31 17:40:13+00:00 in channel #pypa-dev
[06:23:27] <pradyunsg> !nerf techalchemy
[06:23:27] <pmxbot> techalchemy, you have rare incompetence. Don' stop bragplaining, pradyunsg.
[06:23:36] <pradyunsg> lol
[06:24:11] <pradyunsg> IMO, we all should learn to use this bot more effectively.
[06:24:32] <pradyunsg> !8
[06:24:33] <pmxbot> Not a chance, buddy.
[10:52:22] <ei8fdb> pradyunsg: Do you have any comments on the pycon research plan?
[13:43:43] <pradyunsg> ei8fdb: nope - need to take a closer look at that first.
[14:47:04] <techalchemy> nice
[14:47:27] <techalchemy> ei8fdb, research plan?
[14:48:14] <pradyunsg> https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/wiki/pycon-2020-user-research-plan
[14:48:23] <pradyunsg> techalchemy ^
[14:48:50] <techalchemy> ty
[22:40:04] <sangy> !8 will this jenkins build pass
[22:40:04] <pmxbot> My sources say no
[22:40:06] <sangy> damnit
[22:41:10] <techalchemy> jenkins build-- thats your first problem
[22:45:30] <mrpackethead86> lol
[22:45:43] <mrpackethead86> you love it, or hate it
[23:08:23] <techalchemy> do you know someone who loves jenkins?
[23:11:59] <tos9> it's terrible and better than the alternatives... that's still top of the scale for software isn't it?
[23:27:21] <techalchemy> hasn't gitlab mostly caught up yet?
[23:27:53] <techalchemy> anyway i feel like jenkins is used for too much stuff, when i ask what people use it for the answer seems to be like, flying to mars
[23:34:29] <tos9> idk we don't run gitlab maybe it's good
[23:34:39] <tos9> I don't really understand why a build system and a version control system should be the same thing
[23:35:08] <tos9> so I am suspicious of the idea, but who knows gitlab seems in general to be pretty sane so maybe they built a better mousetrap but it's attached to the bicycle they built