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[15:14:57] <cooperlees> sumanah: Didn't get far - Forked and got a template and read threads tho!

[15:15:08] <cooperlees> https://github.com/cooperlees/peps/blob/warehouse_json_api/pep-9999.rst

[15:15:16] <sumanah> cooperlees -- ok lemme look!

[15:15:22] <cooperlees> No point - nothing there

[15:15:28] <sumanah> sometimes making more of an outline helps

[15:15:37] <sumanah> wanna give me (brainwane) edit access to that?

[15:19:31] <cooperlees> Sure will. Hold 5

[15:19:33] <sumanah> cooperlees: sure

[15:20:42] <cooperlees> Done - pm'd link

[15:21:17] <cooperlees> Commit away - we can always squash

[15:21:22] <sumanah> yup!

[15:21:36] <sumanah> cooperlees: if you could stick the threads you've been reading into a "references" section that would be great

[15:21:54] <cooperlees> good call

[15:22:10] <cooperlees> I linked the main one in that .rst already

[15:29:47] <sumanah> cooperlees: ok, I've taken stuff from https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/issues/367 and I've turned it into a somewhat more detailed outline in the draft

[15:29:59] <cooperlees> Perfect

[15:30:22] <cooperlees> I'll elaborate and trying include everyone else's points and start going over the API from what I know then I'll ask for people for anything I missed

[15:31:14] <cooperlees> sumanah: Feel free to be a so author - I'll feel you'll proof read it enough :D

[15:31:20] <sumanah> cooperlees: ok!

[15:31:34] <sumanah> Thanks for the offer, which I accept. I will edit & add my name

[15:36:20] <cooperlees> Perfect.

[15:37:54] <cooperlees> sumanah: Do you understand what a Sponsor is in the metadata headers for a PEP?

[15:38:02] <cooperlees> (I haven't tried to look up exactly yet)

[15:38:12] <sumanah> cooperlees: yes - it's described in PEP 1

[15:38:42] <sumanah> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0001/#submitting-a-pep

[15:38:57] <sumanah> "The sponsor's job is to provide guidance to the PEP author to help them through the logistics of the PEP process (somewhat acting like a mentor)."

[15:40:25] <sumanah> the sponsor says stuff like "you should fix this bit before you submit" or "it's ready" or "use the mailing list, not just GitHub" or "here's what Type to use" etc

[15:52:43] <cooperlees> kk - I'll ask Lukasz as he use to proof read all my terrible english @ Facebook

[15:53:00] <cooperlees> (Even tho he's native language is Polski - Made me feel so bad ... haha)

[16:02:12] <sumanah> cooperlees: that could work .... Nick Coghlan might also be willing (he sponsored PEP 458)

[16:02:41] <sumanah> I have a call. back in a while

[16:06:36] <pradyunsg> cooperlees: basically a PEP Sponsor is a CPython Core Dev. It's a requirement to prevent random folks from asking for a PEP, for a thing that no one in the core team thinks is a good idea / worth documenting.

[16:06:56] <cooperlees> Got it

[16:07:17] <pradyunsg> It's a requirement for the process, to get a core developer to say "yea, that looks reasonable, I can help you out with the process" -- basically so that the folks maintaining the PEPs repository don't have a big headache all day. :)

[16:07:22] <cooperlees> I know this is hard to believe, but I'm not one to follow / love formalities :D

[16:07:30] <pradyunsg> lol

[16:09:26] <pradyunsg> cooperlees: well, if the PEP 609 saga goes well, packaging PEPs will get a significant reduction in the process, in that PyPA folks here would be able to fill that role of "PEP sponsor" than just the ones who are *also* CPython core devs. :)

[16:10:16] <cooperlees> Cool

[16:10:21] <cooperlees> I like that

[16:10:22] <pradyunsg> FWIW, dstufft might also be willing to be a sponsor for the warehouse API.

[16:10:30] <cooperlees> Yeah he prob will

[16:10:36] <cooperlees> Just hate asking him all the time

[16:10:59] <pradyunsg> You could ask Paul Moore, but he'll probably say ask Donald. :P

[16:11:21] <cooperlees> Ambv (Łukasz) I don’t mind asking all the time cause I know him so well

[16:12:11] <pradyunsg> That works too.

[16:13:17] <pradyunsg> :)

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