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[17:58:13] <cooperlees> nice video - should help empathy increase when pip breaks things in October. I hope people see it will be for the greater good in Python moving forward

[17:59:39] <cooperlees> It all loaded fine for me

[21:17:33] <sumanah> graingert: you asked the other day about who makes the pip surveys and you mentioned how good they are! Thank you - I passed that on to Nicole Harris, Bernard Tyers, and Georgia Bullen, the UX specialists at Simply Secure https://simplysecure.org/ who made them

[21:20:19] <graingert> sumanah: thanks for passing it on!

[21:20:24] <sumanah> :-)

[21:22:16] <graingert> is it too late to deploy with,

[21:22:16] <graingert> try: _2020resolver()

[21:22:16] <graingert> except: legacy_resolver()

[21:22:16] <graingert> for 20.3 and do 2020 resolver only in 20.4?

[21:24:12] <sumanah> graingert: I'd prefer to talk about that in the GitHub issue, sorry

[21:24:51] <graingert> That's ok, I've not been notified about it

[21:29:02] <graingert> sumanah: this one? https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/8937

[21:30:24] <sumanah> graingert: go ahead and mention it there and say that I said it was ok? Pradyun and other maintainers may decide to move it

[21:30:58] <graingert> I think I posted it on another issue, but I can't find it

[21:33:34] <graingert> sumanah: the video tells me it's too late. I don't want to put my hands under the train while it's running

[21:34:02] <sumanah> graingert: if we need to take the video down because there's a good reason to delay the rollout then we will do that

[21:34:31] <sumanah> I have the source video files and I can ask for one or two retakes so we're saying "January" instead of "October" and so on :-)