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[16:10:29] <tomprince> jaraco: You should mention logging in the /topic

[16:29:37] <jaraco> tomprince: pmxbot does announce its presence when you join the channel (or any logged channel). For most channels, that's been sufficient.

[16:29:46] <jaraco> But you're right, especially while pmxbot is new, I'll add it to the topic

[16:29:48] <jaraco> For added clarity.

[16:31:20] <jaraco> /topic Welcome pmxbot for channel logging, courtesy of #dcpython. Use !logs for a link. /msg pmxbot !help for commands. Questions - ask jaraco.

[16:31:29] <jaraco> I wasn't able to see topic without ops.

[17:11:35] <elarson> !m jaraco

[17:11:35] <pmxbot> you're doing good work, jaraco!

[18:11:44] <dstufft> Oh no, now I can't discuss secret plans to take over things in here anymore!!

[18:14:44] <dstufft> sigh anatoly

[18:16:13] <Alex_Gaynor> dstufft: not sure if you follow python-dev, but https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-February/132307.html

[18:20:44] <dstufft> Alex_Gaynor: responded

[18:26:12] <dstufft> qwcode: there was a time when I was going to do just that :V

[18:26:26] <dstufft> then I became a PyPI admin and a pypa core (I see now what y'all did -.-)

[19:20:56] <tomprince> Does pip support HTTP basic auth?

[19:33:16] <dstufft> yes

[22:04:56] <Alex_Gaynor> dstufft: how do I make a virtualenv from a python I compiled locally http://bpaste.net/show/aOIcDW2qw8iio9rlt4Aq/

[22:05:21] <dstufft> Alex_Gaynor: uh

[22:05:24] <dstufft> you might need to make install it

[22:05:35] <Alex_Gaynor> I don't want to install it

[22:05:41] <Alex_Gaynor> I want to use a random file on my computer :-(

[22:05:59] <dstufft> Yea, virtualenv is kind of a hack

[22:06:05] <dstufft> and I don't know it real well

[22:07:56] <dstufft> Alex_Gaynor: what I do is just configure CPython to have a prefix like ~/projects/python34installed/

[22:08:01] <dstufft> kinda lame but :/

[22:22:13] <tomprince> If you created a virtualenv (with any python) and then installed a self-compiled python with that as a prefix ...?

[22:24:24] <carljm> Alex_Gaynor: distutils' support for non-installed Pythons is a giant hack

[22:24:34] <carljm> but there are two approaches you could try

[22:25:41] <carljm> never mind, just opened and read your gist

[22:25:51] <carljm> both approaches I had in mind would fail that way

[22:25:57] <carljm> virtualenv doesn't support not-installed pythons

[22:26:09] <carljm> pyvenv does though AFAIR

[22:26:27] <carljm> and 3.4 has pyvenv

[22:29:51] <carljm> Alex_Gaynor: or just pick a random adjacent path and install to that prefix.

[22:30:16] <Alex_Gaynor> carljm: I think I just decided I don't care and will wait until travis has it

[22:30:30] <Alex_Gaynor> thanks for your help though

[22:32:09] <dstufft> oh hey we run 3.4 on travis

[22:32:19] <dstufft> I compile it and install it inline with the test run :V

[22:34:17] <carljm> "I decided I don't care" <-- reasonable way to deal with distutils.

[23:08:25] <Alex_Gaynor> carljm: Also a reasonable way to deal with unrealeased versions of python3