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[10:58:22] <d0ugal> Is there a nice way to tell if download-cache has been set in the pip config?

[10:58:37] <d0ugal> I want to set PIP_DOWNLOAD_CACHE in a script if the user hasn't provided one.

[11:02:27] <dstufft> d0ugal: there's nothing really set up to do that no

[11:02:38] <dstufft> Theuni2: ping

[11:03:00] <d0ugal> ah well :)

[13:00:09] <Somelauw> I'm trying to do pip3 install --user --upgrade 'ipython[all]', but it crashes on zmq/utils/initthreads.c:8:22: fatal error: pyconfig.h: No such file or directory

[13:01:09] <mgedmin> Somelauw, you may need to install some python development packages, e.g. on Debian/ubuntu sudo apt-get install python-dev

[13:01:23] <mgedmin> make that python3-dev, since pip3

[13:02:15] <Somelauw> mgedmin: I'll try that.

[13:05:05] <Somelauw> mgedmin: thanks, now it works

[13:05:48] <Somelauw> i already did sudo apt-get install python3-zmq and python-boost-dev before, but apparently those weren't enough

[13:08:17] <mgedmin> you want sudo apt-get build-dep python3-zmq to get the build dependencies, if you plan to build zmq's python bindings from scratch

[13:08:33] <mgedmin> (and pip always builds stuff from sources on linux, due to reasons)

[13:09:33] <Ivo> Somelauw: python3-zmq gets you the system zmq binaries, but doesn't help you build it from scratch with pip

[13:10:16] <Somelauw> So if I understand correctly build-dev usually install the dev packages to build another package?

[13:10:18] <mgedmin> some days I'm sad that build-dep is a separate apt subcommand instead of being a modifier...

[18:22:42] <unstable> What to do? (i)gnore, (w)ipe, (b)ackup

[18:22:57] <unstable> I switched a project from hg/bitbucket to git/github, and I'm getting this on my build system now

[18:23:59] <unstable> nevermind, circleci does some caching optimizations

[18:24:03] <unstable> I just cleared that and it works now.

[22:36:41] <glyph> dstufft: hey fix your stuff <github.com/dstufft/twine/issues/30>;

[22:36:47] <glyph> please

[22:37:03] <dstufft> oh yea

[22:37:08] <dstufft> give me a few minute

[22:37:11] <dstufft> minutes

[22:37:58] <glyph> dstufft: woah really? thanks :)

[22:59:06] <dstufft> glyph: pip install twine>=1.3.0