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[12:15:24] <Jannie> The website looks outdated: it refers to #pip for user channel and #pypa for dev channel. just a heads up

[12:16:43] <Jannie> Any way, quick question: I upgraded a package (numpy) from within pip but my python doesn't recognize this upgrade. Furthermore, when I uninstall this package, I can still import it from within python. Can anybody help me out?

[12:20:53] <aclark> Jannie: sounds like two different Pythons

[12:21:41] <Jannie> sure, I'm trying to find out where pip installs packages to but all I get is the actual package location (i.e., where it is on disk)

[12:21:57] <Jannie> when googling, of course

[12:22:19] <aclark> Jannie: lib/<python-ver>/site-packages typically

[12:23:54] <Jannie> interesting, no numpy indeed. i'll have a look around, thanks

[12:35:08] <Jannie> okay so pip installs its stuff to /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages, but changing PYTHONPATH seems to not matter. any clue? :$

[12:38:07] <dstufft> you can't tell pip to install somewhere different used the PYTHONPATH variable

[12:38:17] <dstufft> you might look at --target or --root or --user

[12:38:35] <Jannie> sure, but I'm hoping I can tell python to look in another directory -- though this is ofcourse outside the scope of pip

[12:38:44] <dstufft> oh

[12:38:57] <dstufft> you should be able to tell python to look in a different directory using PYTHONPATH yea

[12:39:10] <Jannie> bad wording, apologies

[12:39:24] <Jannie> I guess my python is somewhat borked maybe

[12:47:12] <Jannie> Argh, too many headaches. Thanks a lot you two :) i'm gonna split

[12:55:17] <Ivo> anyone know what website Jannie was talking about that referred to #pip ?

[12:58:03] <aclark> Ivo: python.org presumably or pypi maybe