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[01:23:04] <wsanchez_bmhq> What might cause `setup.py check` to fail with: error: invalid command 'check'

[01:23:28] <wsanchez_bmhq> I'm printing the setuptools module in use by setup.py and it's 1.5.4…

[01:24:41] <wsanchez_bmhq> Oh, python 2.6.6

[01:24:42] <wsanchez_bmhq> ew

[01:24:52] <wsanchez_bmhq> maybe that's is

[18:32:44] <glyph> dstufft: Hey I've got another good bug

[18:33:13] <glyph> dstufft: pip really, really wants to delete distribute on ubuntu precise.

[18:33:14] <Alex_Gaynor> glyph: what makes a bug good?

[18:33:28] <glyph> Alex_Gaynor: when it's intractable and full of backwards compatibility concerns and requires piling hacks on top of more hacks to fix

[18:33:46] <Alex_Gaynor> glyph: *Checks channel name*

[18:34:00] <glyph> Alex_Gaynor: pretty sure i'm in the right place!

[18:34:36] <glyph> dstufft: so basically I'm trying to 'pip install --upgrade --user setuptools' but it won't let me do this without deleting the system-installed setuptools.

[18:36:54] <glyph> oh wait should I be in -dev?

[18:38:12] <nanonyme> Yeah, that's nasty. I've just been working around it by using virtualenvs

[18:39:11] <glyph> nanonyme: I'm trying to bootstrap the process of setting up a reasonable virtualenv/pip/setuptools etc as --user so you can create envs and build wheels and so on in the first place :)

[18:41:43] <tomprince> You could just use a virtualenv for that too.

[18:42:29] <qwcode> glyph, it's this I think https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1851

[18:55:33] <glyph> qwcode: that looks precisely correct

[18:55:41] <glyph> I wonder if there's a workaround?

[18:57:01] <qwcode> glyph, is it system distribute or setuptools?

[18:59:43] <qwcode> glyph, other than fixing the bug, you could doctor the system metadata temporarily, so it doesn't appear installed.

[19:00:29] <qwcode> glyph, the fix would be a small change, but I fear other reprocussions, since this is gnarly territory, and we wanted to remove the distribute to setuptools migrations hack soonish anyway

[19:01:00] <glyph> qwcode: how would I doctor that metadata?

[19:01:14] <glyph> qwcode: ubuntu precise has another few years of life :)

[19:02:10] <qwcode> if you're not sure how to doctor the metadata, then I probably shouldn't be recommending that : )

[19:02:18] <glyph> qwcode: let me put it this way

[19:02:30] <glyph> I know what to monkeypatch in a .pth file

[19:02:36] <glyph> if you don't give me a better way I'm just going to do that :)

[19:02:57] <glyph> I want to make the scope of this mutation as minimal as possible.

[19:06:13] <qwcode> glyph, is it distribute or setuptools

[19:07:13] <qwcode> glyph, but no, I have no other quick fix other than pth or moving egg-info dirs around, depending on how it's installed globally

[19:08:10] <qwcode> glyph, maybe I try to get a fix in for this for the upcoming release, since it's fairly bad

[19:10:02] <glyph> qwcode: the whole point is that I can't elevate administrator privileges :-(

[19:10:16] <glyph> qwcode: thanks though, I'll just do this with a special script that monkeypatches right now

[20:16:57] <dstufft> glyph: sorry I was out, glad qwcode was able to provide some more info tho