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[00:00:08] <dstufft> he has a vested interested in making Python on windows better

[00:00:13] <pf_moore> dstufft: The more the merrier with Windows instructions, but Nathaniel's a good test case because he has a real C-based project to try with

[00:00:47] <pf_moore> Yeah, Having Steve around is a huge help.

[00:01:16] <pf_moore> But must go now, 5:30am start tomorrow and it's midnight here already :-(

[00:01:18] <pf_moore> See you.

[00:03:25] <dstufft> see ya!

[04:43:21] <FunkyBob> morning... am just trying to understand exactly how pip works when I install my own pacakge from a tarbal, as it doesn't appear to be equivalent to "setup.py install"

[04:43:32] <FunkyBob> I'm trying to ensure some post-install code gets run

[04:44:48] <FunkyBob> when i do pip install [on windows, long story] ... it's clearly not invoking "setup.py install"...

[09:08:32] <spaceSub> I installed virtualenv on a debian stable with pip-3.2, but I need a python > 3.3. Is there a way to do that with that virtualenv or do I need to install a newer virtualen package by hand?

[09:19:30] <FunkyBob> virtualenv is pure python, so it should work just fine.

[09:20:45] <spaceSub> Alright, thanks. (Also, you are everywhere ;)

[09:21:13] <FunkyBob> yes... yes I am :P

[09:59:30] <doismellburning> I had to check this wasn't #django :P

[10:45:26] <FunkyBob> oi!

[23:30:50] <buck1> is there any way to get pip to say what it *would* install?

[23:31:03] <buck1> or, is there a public api for parsing the requirements.txt

[23:31:35] <FunkyBob> like a dry run?

[23:32:01] <buck1> the equivalent to pip freeze but for a requirements file rather than a virtualenv

[23:32:08] <buck1> so that i could diff them

[23:32:24] <buck1> the easy way is to install the requrements and pip freeze, but takes a while

[23:34:06] <doismellburning> buck1: afaik no

[23:34:34] <doismellburning> buck1: everyone I know does the install in some sandbox and freezes

[23:35:07] <buck1> that's necessary if there are floating versions, but all of ours are =='d

[23:57:28] <buck1> is pip.FrozenRequirement a public interface i can depend on?