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[06:37:23] <mgedmin> pypi 503 again

[06:37:29] <mgedmin> I don't think I've seen a working pypi page this week

[06:55:00] <mgedmin> OKAY NOW THIS IS SOMETHING

[06:55:08] <mgedmin> my browser can't use PyPI

[06:55:20] <mgedmin> except in incognito windows! where PyPI works just fine!

[06:55:24] <mgedmin> cookies?

[06:59:29] <mgedmin> yup, clear pypi cookies, pypi works again!

[09:46:53] <delinquentme> so occasionally I'm having issues with pip not installing a package when i code the command into a shell script ... anyone know what the issue might be?

[09:47:23] <delinquentme> https://dpaste.de/rKic

[09:48:37] <doismellburning> delinquentme: what does "not installing" mean? log?

[09:49:27] <delinquentme> doismellburning, say I specify the version in that pip command ... and a different version ends up being installed after the script finishes

[09:49:49] <mgedmin> wheee download code over http and run it as root!

[09:50:47] <mgedmin> I wouldn't trust Debian's packaged pip to be able to upgrade itself from PyPI

[09:51:11] <mgedmin> any reason why you can't use the packaged pip?

[09:51:40] <mgedmin> if I needed a newer pip, I'd probably create a virtualenv in /opt or /srv somewhere

[09:51:53] <mgedmin> then /opt/mystuff/bin/pip install -U pip

[09:52:11] <mgedmin> please don't consider my answer to be authoritative

[09:52:12] <doismellburning> mgedmin: I've never had a problem doing so fwiw

[09:52:39] <doismellburning> (I have a lot of vagrant boxen that `apt-get install python-pip ; pip install --upgrade pip`)

[09:52:45] <mgedmin> cool

[09:52:54] <mgedmin> you never said *which* of the three pip commands gives you trouble

[09:53:10] <doismellburning> delinquentme: more data please

[09:53:27] <mgedmin> I suggest merging the two pip installs that explicitly specify versions into a single command

[09:53:39] <mgedmin> so you know the 2nd won't upgrade the package you pinned in the 1st

[09:54:00] <delinquentme> kk smart lemme give it a go

[10:17:52] <delinquentme> doismellburning, mgedmin sorted it out -- the apache-libcloud version in the repos was sufficiently up to date. so they all run through correctly .. time foar sleep

[10:17:58] <delinquentme> thanks all

[16:09:27] <tazle> it seems that the cacert.pem bundle that's included in PIP 1.5.6 doesn't contain the CA that pypi.python.org is currently using

[16:09:54] <tazle> am I doing something wrong? is this a known issue?

[16:56:12] <dstufft> tazle: doesn't sound right, else everyone would be having problems

[16:56:42] <tazle> dstufft: see https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2130

[17:03:45] <dstufft> tazle: commented

[19:35:54] <buck1> does pkg_resources have any notion of which installed pacakge deps which other?

[19:41:06] <buck1> dist.requires()

[22:30:54] <delinquentme> Ok so I've sorted out the issue to this command: pip install -e git+https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/libcloud.git@trunk#egg=apache-libcloud #edge

[22:31:10] <delinquentme> when run in console ... runs just fine ... when run via script ... fails miserably

[22:31:14] <delinquentme> any ideas why?

[23:53:47] <ahmeni> delinquentme: escaping issue?