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[06:58:39] <carlio> gchristensen: https://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/pkg_resources.html ?
[12:38:27] <ionelmc> mgedmin: around?
[12:45:59] <mgedmin> ionelmc, yes, but about to escape for belated lunch
[12:47:10] <ionelmc> mgedmin: objgraph basicaly use gc.get_referrers to get the ref chain right?
[12:47:22] <mgedmin> yes
[12:47:40] <ionelmc> i wonder why it doesn't see the referrers for some objects used in mysqldb
[12:47:51] <ionelmc> do C extensions have to do anything special to make gc.get_referrers work?
[12:48:39] <mgedmin> C extensions have to implement a certain slot to make garbage collection work
[12:49:08] <mgedmin> https://docs.python.org/2/c-api/gcsupport.html
[14:48:48] <gchristensen> carlio: I'm fairly certain that link wasn't for me
[15:36:40] <straycat> hey i'm having problems with pypi's xmlrpclib, according to https://wiki.python.org/moin/PyPIXmlRpc?action=show&redirect=PyPiXmlRpc the package_releases function should have a show_hidden keyword, but when I call the function I get a type error "unexpected keyword argument 'show_hidden'" ?
[15:41:54] <straycat> Oh, I see the xmlrpclib doesn't support positional arguments
[15:42:06] <straycat> ( https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/issue/60/xmlrpc-package_releases-issues ) >.>
[15:42:29] <straycat> that documentation there is a little misleading then imo
[15:42:53] <straycat> since it's using the keyword arg syntax to describe something that's not a keyword arg
[15:45:01] <ionelmc> straycat: doesn't the json api have what you need?
[15:45:28] <straycat> possibly, i'm already using the rpc api though
[15:45:53] <ionelmc> it's a piece of cake with requests
[15:45:59] <ionelmc> just saying :-)
[16:00:40] <straycat> hrm yes, in hindsight it probably would have been better to use the json api
[16:00:55] <straycat> i think someone told me it was not exactly stable yet though
[18:59:27] <[Tritium]> is there a way to tell pip to ignore system packages if using --user?
[18:59:57] <[Tritium]> totally ignore them... dont try and uninstall the system package as it will with --user --upgrade
[19:06:45] <[Tritium]> neverm-Ind, -I need to learn how to read
[19:32:39] <carlio> gchristensen: yes sorry, tab-complete is not my friend
[19:32:44] <gchristensen> :) no worries