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[10:38:22] <ronny> hi

[10:38:56] <ronny> whats the current repo for setuptools, i have 2 idea i want to add/implement

[10:39:04] <ronny> the bitbucket one?

[10:41:52] <xafer> yes

[10:42:13] <xafer> but it is also mirrored on github

[10:42:16] <ronny> whos the current head dev?

[10:42:39] <xafer> jaraco

[10:42:51] <ronny> so no here atm?

[10:43:27] <xafer> apparently not

[10:46:09] <ronny> i see, i i cant start the feature without some feedback

[10:48:51] <ronny> hmm, i suppose i should mail

[13:18:47] <ThomasV> hello.. can I add a dependency in setup.py without making it mandatory (that is, install should not fail if that dep fails)

[20:09:26] <egon1024> Quick question - did something change with how pip was installed for folks using the get-pip.py script sometime last week?

[20:56:00] <dstufft> egon1024: a new release was made

[20:56:54] <egon1024> Actually, a precursor question - the get-pip.py script, does it download pip to install it? Or is the pip source itself actually encapsulated in the get-pip.py script?

[20:57:05] <egon1024> (should have asked that first)

[20:57:57] <dstufft> pip is embedded in get-pip.py, but it downloads it

[20:58:02] <dstufft> also

[20:58:16] <egon1024> Sorry - I'm not following that response. :)

[20:58:25] <tdsmith> ~inception~

[20:58:28] <egon1024> :D

[20:59:01] <buck1> egon1024: both; it's embedded and downloaded by the embedded

[20:59:21] <egon1024> Oh - ok, so it installs itself from the embedded version but then updates from the download?

[20:59:22] <buck1> how do you install pip? pip.

[21:00:02] <buck1> egon1024: that's what dstufft said i think

[21:00:23] <egon1024> That makes sense

[21:00:27] <egon1024> Thanks

[21:08:39] <egon1024> Is there a mailing list for release announcements?

[21:08:58] <dstufft> normally on distutils-sig

[21:09:31] <egon1024> Thank you again

[21:42:28] <tomprince> egon1024 buck1: I don't think it installs the embedded version, it just uses the embedded version to download and install a version.

[21:42:58] <egon1024> Important distinction - that's interesting

[22:49:34] <dstufft> yea what tomprince said

[22:49:43] <dstufft> though with some changes it wouldn't be hard to make it possible to do that