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[04:52:11] <tdsmith> I'm finding I'm spending a lot of time asking devs to use "-undefined dynamic_lookup" instead of `python-config --ldflags` on OS X to build extension modules to avoid an explicit link to whatever Python framework the compiler finds, because that causes different (but compatible) cypthon interpreters to segfault when they try to import the module

[04:52:23] <tdsmith> s/compiler/linker

[04:52:48] <tdsmith> what's the best way out of this :p

[04:55:45] <tdsmith> http://bugs.python.org/issue15590 exists but requires some sort of action

[10:01:27] <ionelmc> mgedmin: easy_install --version would do that

[10:02:20] <ionelmc> but yeah, having pip dump all the versions would help with bugreports

[20:20:29] <natefoo> not sure if this is a reasonable place to bring up pypi but i was having trouble getting it to render my rst and then saw that virtualenv's rst is similarly not rendering.

[20:20:49] <natefoo> so i figured it might just be that pypi is broken at the moment, but then setuptools' rst is working, so...

[20:21:56] <ionelmc> natefoo: `pip install readme; python setup.py --strict --restructuredtext` to get a list of issues

[20:22:39] <natefoo> setup.py check --... ?

[20:23:07] <natefoo> no complaints.

[20:25:24] <ionelmc> natefoo: ah yes, check

[20:26:06] <ionelmc> natefoo: try collective.checkdocs

[20:26:08] <ionelmc> dunno

[20:26:33] <ionelmc> what packge?

[20:27:08] <natefoo> https://testpypi.python.org/pypi?name=gravity&version=0.8&:action=display

[20:56:38] <calston> mine doesn't seem to render anymore either

[20:57:41] <calston> ah, that's because I broke my setup.py

[20:58:34] <natefoo> well i made 0 changes other than bumping the version number because i deleted the uploads and couldn't upload them again (grr) and now it renders just fine...

[20:59:07] <natefoo> (regular pypi): https://pypi.python.org/pypi/gravity/0.8.1

[21:18:48] <ionelmc> natefoo: must be some caching

[21:18:58] <ionelmc> rendering was changed recently

[21:30:22] <natefoo> yeah, i deleted the "TODO" and "Ideas" sections I had in there, re-uploaded the PKG-INFO, and now it's not displaying again.

[21:30:36] <natefoo> so something is messed up.

[21:32:51] <ronny> r

[21:33:22] <ronny> dstufft: ping? whats the current standard on extra version tags, i want to include scm commit id and eventually datetime as well

[21:34:03] <ronny> should look somtihng like last.version.dev<distance>+node:nodeid+data:YYYMMDD

[22:18:10] <ronny> btw, https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2423 <- dstufft, i think python needs that asap ^^

[22:30:42] <tos9> It's already in requirements 2.0 (plans / spec) IIRC.