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[03:03:26] <sudarkoff> !logs

[03:03:26] <pmxbot> http://chat-logs.dcpython.org/channel/pypa

[07:37:24] <pynpong> Hello, I am relatively new to Python and I am currently using pyenv in order to not contaminate my python's system default installation with other versions I may want to use for dev.

[07:38:00] <pynpong> I would like to install pip now, but I am not sure how would I go about it, for example, `python get-pip.py` is one way, but are there any other methods?

[07:38:29] <pynpong> Finally, since I am using `pyenv`, what is the recommended python version ~ to get pip.

[07:38:32] <pynpong> Thanks!

[07:52:32] <ronny> pynpong: what version of python again?

[07:53:19] <ronny> pynpong: the common way is to use virtualenv

[07:53:31] <ronny> pynpong: each virtualenv has a own set of pacakges,

[07:53:34] <ronny> whops

[13:13:28] <ayrx> !logs

[13:13:28] <pmxbot> http://chat-logs.dcpython.org/channel/pypa

[13:15:52] <ayrx> does pypi do takedowns of malicious packages? https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptool

[13:31:47] <ronny> ayrx: see https://pypi.python.org/security - also dstufft can help maybe

[13:32:17] <ayrx> mm, i pinged him on another channel already

[14:07:38] <[Tritium]> I spent 15 minutes looking to see if something got removed from setuptools while trying to make a wheel of someone else's code... and was going to ask in here... until i checked their setup.py.... `from distutils.core import setup` *while True: head.strike(desk)*

[15:22:41] <ronny> jaraco: sup

[15:25:23] <doismellburning> I have so much code that does that, sigh

[15:26:15] <ronny> [Tritium]: use pip wheel . ?

[15:28:16] <ronny> [Tritium]: well, whats more easy to upstream?

[15:28:40] <[Tritium]> a 3 line diff?

[15:29:38] <[Tritium]> https://github.com/brandon-rhodes/pyephem/pull/75/files << seriously... oh, its 5 lines

[15:29:42] <ronny> [Tritium]: then go for it?

[15:29:53] <[Tritium]> Thats a pull request!

[15:37:27] <ronny> jaraco: got any other notes? else i think im mostly done with part 1 for setuptools_scm and the other parts are items to attack until the pythoncamp (in germany)

[20:13:45] <ronny> jaraco: ping?

[20:21:10] <jaraco> hi ronny

[20:22:57] <ronny> jaraco: got any other notes? else i think im mostly done with part 1 for setuptools_scm and the other parts are items to attack until the pythoncamp (in germany)

[20:23:42] <ronny> jaraco: i could use smarter file finder apis in setuptools ^^

[20:26:21] <jaraco> No other notes.

[20:27:20] <jaraco> ronny: It's conceivable the file finder APIs could be improved. I welcome tickets and especially concrete suggestions and patches.

[20:27:46] <ronny> jaraco: i mostly need some way to pass in the distribution, so i can configure the scm root

[20:28:05] <ronny> jaraco: also i'd like to add a json file into egg-info/dist-info

[20:28:27] <ronny> also brb, someone made me dinner ^^

[20:38:15] <jaraco> ronny: adding a JSON file to egg-info sounds like a bit of a mismatch to me (creates different metadata serialization formats on disk). Metadata 2.0 is supposed to be JSON, in which case such metadata would naturally be JSON, but until then, with metadata 1.2 or similar, I'd prefer a consistent format. That said, I'm speaking mostly out of ignorance. I invite any proposal that's practical and not grossly incongruent.

[20:39:09] <ronny> jaraco: bascailly its a new file, the new format should be used, just to avoid backward compat later on