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[00:53:33] <rZ_> hi, i'm having what appears to be a non-unique issue with creating a virtualenv of a homebrew-installed python3.4 on os x. i've created an issue on github: https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/issues/779

[00:53:49] <rZ_> was wondering if anybody had any experience or knowhow to help me with this

[12:54:55] <ionelmc> mathieui: what's wrong with post releases?

[22:04:51] <nedbat> i'm pulling my hair out trying to debug a compile problem during installation. Often I get no mention of the compile step at all, and can't understand why pip doesn't show the compilation lines... :(

[22:09:43] <ionelmc> nedbat: it changed recently (6.0 maybe?) to no be so verbose

[22:10:45] <nedbat> ionelmc: how do I see the compilation and the errors from the compilation?

[22:10:49] <ionelmc> nedbat: it only happens with pip or?

[22:10:58] <ionelmc> dunno, add --verbose maybe?

[22:11:35] <nedbat> ionelmc: -vvv shows me all sorts of details about trying to download kits, but no more about the compilate

[22:11:38] <nedbat> compilation

[22:11:48] <ionelmc> nedbat: it only happens with pip or?

[22:12:02] <nedbat> ionelmc: hmm, i haven't tried otherwise.

[22:15:17] <nedbat> ionelmc: ugh: "python setup.py install" installs just fine. "pip install 'coverage>=4.0b1'" also installs, but without the C extension

[22:15:34] <ionelmc> hmmm

[22:15:37] <ionelmc> lemme try

[22:15:44] <nedbat> ionelmc: on sec

[22:15:46] <nedbat> one sec

[22:16:26] <ionelmc> aah

[22:16:33] <nedbat> ionelmc: ok, the tip of bitbucket has 4.0b1

[22:16:37] <ionelmc> ok

[22:17:47] <ionelmc> seems to compile

[22:17:51] <ionelmc> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/EeO30Gzf/

[22:18:24] <ionelmc> there's a .ve/lib/python2.7/site-packages/coverage/tracer.so

[22:19:09] <nedbat> ionelmc: try: coverage debug sys # does it say PyTracer or CTracer ?

[22:19:41] <ionelmc> CTracer

[22:19:48] <ionelmc> seems fine

[22:19:52] <nedbat> ionelmc: great. what OS?

[22:20:00] <ionelmc> ubuntu 12.04

[22:20:13] <ionelmc> nedbat: what os do you have?

[22:20:26] <nedbat> ionelmc: Mac 10.10.4

[22:21:11] <nedbat> ionelmc: when i use pip, how can I see the detailed log?

[22:21:25] <ionelmc> -vvv

[22:21:29] <ionelmc> there may be a file

[22:21:30] <ionelmc> aa

[22:22:35] <nedbat> ionelmc: I have ~/.pip/pip.log, but it hasn't been updated in 8 hours?

[22:23:15] <ionelmc> maybe it's off since pip 6.0

[22:23:23] <ionelmc> try --log filename

[22:26:08] <nedbat> ok, that writes a file, but it still doesn't have the info I need.

[22:26:18] <nedbat> http://dpaste.com/3E4VWBX has two installs, one plain, and one with -vvv

[22:26:32] <ionelmc> nedbat: seems hunter works fine, try it

[22:26:47] <nedbat> ionelmc: i don't know what that means

[22:26:47] <ionelmc> just to see why the compiling isn't happening

[22:26:59] <ionelmc> nedbat: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/hunter

[22:27:20] <ionelmc> it's very slow :(

[22:27:22] <nedbat> ionelmc: i want to understand why pip isn't showing me info that I consider basic information about the installation.

[22:27:46] <ionelmc> oooh

[22:28:04] <ionelmc> nedbat: you're using 7.0 right?

[22:28:11] <ionelmc> builds are caches as wheels

[22:28:15] <ionelmc> cached*

[22:28:48] <nedbat> is that mentioned in this log somewhere?

[22:29:13] <ionelmc> seems not :)

[22:29:17] <nedbat> no, it isn't.

[22:29:22] <nedbat> any idea where that cache is?

[22:29:26] <nedbat> or how to skip it?

[22:29:31] <ionelmc> try --no-cache-dir or --no-binary=:all:

[22:29:57] <ionelmc> maybe in ~/.cache/pip/ ?

[22:30:04] <ionelmc> depends on os/configuration

[22:31:36] <nedbat> hmmm...

[22:34:44] <nedbat> ~/Library/Caches/pip

[22:36:51] <nedbat> ionelmc: thanks for your help, clearing that cache has solved the problem.

[22:48:11] <dstufft> nedbat: open an issue please about it not mentioning you're using a cached build

[22:49:40] <nedbat> dstufft: ok

[22:50:21] <nedbat> dstufft: you have 523 open issues! :(

[22:50:38] <dstufft> yea

[22:50:40] <dstufft> it's not great

[22:51:08] <dstufft> a lot of them are invalid now I think

[22:51:21] <dstufft> but it's a pain in the ass to go through and re-triage them all

[22:54:12] <nedbat> i just wrote #3000! :)

[22:54:33] <nedbat> dstufft: maybe we should try to scare up some volunteers?

[22:56:38] <dstufft> nedbat: always useful :) My time is super constrained currently trying to get warehouse ready to deploy :/