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[11:30:07] <mgedmin> waaah pypi errors

[11:30:14] <mgedmin> why do we still have those

[11:30:21] <mgedmin> "Error: Couldn't find a distribution for 'zope.interface==3.6.1'"

[11:30:28] <mgedmin> but CDN! how is this I can't even

[11:30:34] <mgedmin> bloody zc.buildout

[11:35:13] <mgedmin> "Error: https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/z/zope.component/zope.component-3.9.5.tar.gz#md5=22780b445b1b479701c05978055d1c82 returned a bad status line. The server might be down, ''"

[11:35:38] <mgedmin> "Download error on http://pypi.python.org/simple/zope.component/: '' -- Some packages may not be found!"

[11:36:01] <mgedmin> status.python.org is all green

[12:21:33] <mgedmin> time for me to learn how to set up a pypi mirror?

[14:40:50] <ntoll> hi, where do I ask about PyPi related problems..? Here..? In any case... I'm trying to register a package but get 403. I'm logged in and a search of the site doesn't turn it up

[15:42:23] <rknLA> hi, i might be missing something in the documentation, but when i pip install from a git commit SHA, i seem to get my static files just fine, but when i pip install from a git tag, they don't show up.. anyone know why this is happening?

[18:14:23] <tdsmith> scipy doesn't list numpy as an install_requires package because they're concerned about pip's default behavior: https://github.com/scipy/scipy/issues/5184

[18:14:40] <tdsmith> dunno if there's an opportunity here for setuptools or pip

[18:36:41] <dstufft> tdsmith: I'm not sure I understand that

[18:37:23] <dstufft> We don't upgrade a dependency unless A) It doesn't match a version specifier and we're required to or B) the user asked us to upgrade things with --upgrade

[18:38:09] <tdsmith> i was taking their word for it but, yeah, that's not what pip does, is it

[18:38:53] <tdsmith> i guess they don't like the --upgrade behavior

[21:40:24] <dstufft> tdsmith: to be clear, the --upgrade behavior isn't great, and it confuses people

[21:40:52] <dstufft> there's an open issue somewhere to make a ``pip upgrade`` command to replace --upgrade that is a more pessimistic upgrade