pmxbot IRC Log Viewer

[01:28:22] <Ivo> yo glyph, I was looking at pywin32 packages, and thinking, nowadays it'd be possible to convert all the installers to wheels and upload them on pypi!

[01:28:38] <Ivo> Also possibly update the pypi version to latest (219)

[01:29:16] <Ivo> Also somehow, the sourceforge file listing page says pywin32-219.win-amd64-py3.5.exe was modified in 2014... O_o

[02:04:32] <dstufft> Ivo: have you seen pypiwin32

[02:04:36] <dstufft> I think it's called

[02:19:28] <Ivo> dstufft: no i hadn't

[02:19:59] <Ivo> looks cool, but glyph and pfmoore maintain pywin32 as well

[02:20:07] <Ivo> would be cool if those two could merge or duplicate

[02:20:15] <Ivo> i imagine a lot of ppl haven't heard of it

[06:38:44] <ronny> glyph: you might want to move that off sourceforge asap, sourceforge does evil ^^

[12:43:17] <bmispelon> Hi everyone. Is there any support for using pip as a library?

[12:43:51] <bmispelon> specifically, I'd like to replace subprocess.call(['pip', 'install', 'foobar', '--download', some_folder])

[13:02:42] <xafer> bmispelon: hello, there is currently no supported public API for using pip as a library

[13:04:14] <bmispelon> xafer: ok, thanks.

[13:04:17] <xafer> for the record, a recent discussion happened here: https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3121

[14:28:21] <moldy> hi

[14:28:57] <moldy> if a project uses C extensions, is there anything special you need to consider regarding setup.py develop?

[16:37:31] <tdsmith> is there a good TLS-only https endpoint example somewhere?

[16:41:33] <dstufft> tdsmith: you mean TLS only as opposed to not SSLv3?

[16:41:43] <dstufft> or something else

[16:43:34] <tdsmith> yeah. it looks like https://test20.tls-o-matic.com:420 speaks tls 1.0+

[16:43:48] <tdsmith> servers that specifically speak 1.1 and 1.2 only would also be interesting

[16:44:43] <dstufft> tdsmith: caremad.io is 1.2 only

[16:45:16] <dstufft> it's also PFS only!

[16:45:56] <dstufft> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=caremad.io

[16:46:24] <tdsmith> awesome

[16:48:24] <tdsmith> someone's alleging that apple's curl on 10.8 doesn't negotiate tls correctly and i'm suspicious

[16:58:11] <dstufft> 10.8 so old

[17:00:45] <tdsmith> homebrew's finally degraded support for it, which is nice because c++11 support was a real pain

[22:00:52] <agronholm> that pypiwin32...no documentation to be found anywhere

[22:14:37] <agronholm> why are there separate pywin32 and pypiwin32 projects on pypi I wonder

[23:15:00] <ionelmc> agronholm: pypiwin32 is repackaging

[23:15:12] <agronholm> but why

[23:15:17] <agronholm> mark hammond seems active

[23:23:40] <ionelmc> agronholm: he didn't publish any releases here https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pywin32

[23:23:49] <agronholm> I know, I just wonder why

[23:23:52] <ionelmc> pip don't support external dists anymore

[23:24:07] <ionelmc> therefore someone had to publish them

[23:24:18] <agronholm> there are other maintainers marked there

[23:24:22] <agronholm> can't they do it?

[23:24:33] <agronholm> I see glyph as the maintainer of both projects

[23:24:39] <agronholm> *a maintainer

[23:24:54] <ionelmc> maybe he's just too busy, i did a patch to pywin32 some time ago, took 8 months to get it merged

[23:25:53] <ionelmc> agronholm: you should send mail about this on distutils-sig

[23:27:02] <agronholm> I hate the python mailing lists

[23:27:17] <agronholm> having to sign up for a flood of messages just to post stuff

[23:27:33] <agronholm> can't they be like google groups?

[23:31:31] <ionelmc> agronholm: you know there are settings to not send mail or digest mode right?

[23:32:01] <ionelmc> plus distutils is low traffic

[23:32:19] <agronholm> but then I don't get to see responses to the threads I've posted to?

[23:32:28] <ionelmc> sure you do

[23:32:41] <ionelmc> normal email clients will cc the sender

[23:32:57] <agronholm> I always dropped the cc

[23:33:56] <agronholm> is there any technical reason the python mailing lists couldn't work like google groups? like you could subscribe to threads?

[23:35:34] <ionelmc> maybe mailman has a feature for that but then i didn't see any option for that

[23:35:54] <ionelmc> subscription is not part of the email protocol, simple as that

[23:35:55] <ionelmc> :)

[23:36:17] <agronholm> ionelmc: what does the email protocol have to do with that?

[23:36:28] <ionelmc> if you really care, you subscribe to the list

[23:36:43] <ionelmc> setting filters in your email client should be easy enough

[23:36:44] <ionelmc> imo

[23:38:37] <agronholm> ionelmc: oh, and about subscription not being a part of email protocol, you're wrong: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2369.txt

[23:39:22] <ionelmc> agronholm: you were talking about threads/discussion subscriptions, not list subscriptions :)

[23:39:27] <agronholm> right, right

[23:39:29] <ionelmc> not same thing

[23:39:31] <ionelmc> heh

[23:39:49] <ionelmc> enough venting, get on the list already

[23:39:51] <ionelmc> :D

Log file Viewer

Help | Karma | Search:

#pypa logs for Saturday the 26th of September, 2015