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[00:20:33] <tdsmith> what's a good alternative to pip.get_installed_distributions()?

[00:20:53] <dstufft> tdsmith: pkg_resources.working_set?

[00:21:05] <dstufft> trying to recall what exactly pip.get_installed_distributions does heh

[00:21:41] <tdsmith> looks like it returns list(pkg_resources.working_set) :p

[00:21:51] <dstufft> tdsmith: WEL

[00:21:53] <dstufft> WELP*

[00:21:55] <dstufft> there you go :D

[04:56:49] <waynr> can anyone tell me why this: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jjb-puppetlabs doesn't list any dependencies?

[04:57:21] <waynr> when this: when this does: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jenkins-job-builder/1.3.0

[04:57:37] <waynr> they are build from the same repository just with different package and author names

[04:58:35] <waynr> this repository: https://github.com/puppetlabs/jenkins-job-builder/tree/experimental-2015-09-28

[04:59:53] <waynr> maybe i should be asking in #openstack-oslo since jenkins job builder users the pbr library to hook into setuptools

[07:19:03] <ronny> waynr: you need too upload a wheel first to get that

[07:19:32] <ronny> waynr: only for wheels pypi can safely extract the data,

[10:52:50] <antko> Anyone is getting a 503 at https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py ?

[10:54:39] <mgedmin> yes

[10:55:54] <antko> Where is the proper place to report it? Maybe the github issues?

[10:56:46] <mgedmin> here, I suppose

[10:57:19] <ionelmc> antko: #python-infra

[11:01:00] <mgedmin> oh, right, I always forget

[11:01:30] <mgedmin> it would be nice if https://status.python.org/ said where to report outages

[12:21:45] <mkoskar> Hello, how does it happen that I can find a package at <https://pypi.python.org/simple> but not with search at <https://pypi.python.org/pypi>? That actually means that e.g., 'pip install ...' will install something 'pip search ...' doesn't show.

[12:23:21] <mgedmin> releases can be hidden from view

[12:23:36] <mgedmin> pip finds them (via /simple), users don't see them

[12:24:01] <mgedmin> iirc when all releases of a project are hidden, /pypi/projectname returns 404 (e.g. pygame)

[12:24:49] <mgedmin> when there's more than one non-hidden release /pypi/projectname shows a table letting the user pick the one they want

[12:25:04] <mgedmin> when there's exactly one non-hidden release, /pypi/projectname shows it

[12:27:30] <mkoskar> mgedmin: I see. Hmm, it's pretty confusing I think. I stumbled over it when trying to install 'pyenv'. I think it would make sense to have 'pip install' and 'pip search' consistent.

[12:28:55] <mgedmin> imagine my surprise when I first went to /pypi/pygame and saw it redirect me to /pypi/Pygame, which reports 404

[12:29:10] <mgedmin> (/pypi/pygame/1.8.0 shows that release like everything's fine)

[12:29:36] <mgedmin> (of course there are no downloadable pygame files on pypi anyway, and the pygame maintainers seem to be MIA)

[12:33:50] <mkoskar> mgedmin: yes that is very odd, indeed

[12:34:14] <mgedmin> I'm sure warehouse (the upcoming rewrite of pypi) will fix everything ;)

[12:34:54] <mgedmin> wait

[12:35:00] <mgedmin> I think I misunderstood your original question

[12:35:03] <mgedmin> search at /pypi?

[12:35:48] <mgedmin> e.g. https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=pygame&submit=search ?

[12:35:50] <mkoskar> well, search through web interface, and also 'pip search'

[12:36:00] <mgedmin> hm, I don't know how it works under the hood actually

[12:36:16] <mgedmin> there were some complaints on the distutils-sig@ mailing list about search failing to return results

[12:36:23] <mgedmin> and it wasn't related to hidden releases

[12:36:39] <mgedmin> something something search index got wedged or something? but I thought admins got it unwedged?

[12:39:14] <mkoskar> mgedmin: yes, that might be the case, I dunno, I'm relatively infrequent pip and pypi user

[12:40:24] <mkoskar> ok, I might have a look at this particular package later down the line, and if it persists I will raise it on ML, maybe it's a known issue maybe not

[12:40:46] <mkoskar> mgedmin: thanks ;)

[12:41:00] <mgedmin> what package were you searching for?

[12:42:07] <mkoskar> 'pyenv', which actually can't be installed by pip, well pip2 should work or smt.

[12:47:14] <mgedmin> yeah, weird

[12:48:39] <mgedmin> oh dear $DEITY: https://github.com/yyuu/pyenv-installer/blob/master/setup.py#L6-L8

[14:25:10] <waynr> ronny: thanks!

[14:27:12] <ionelmc> mgedmin: LOL

[14:28:38] <ionelmc> no one reported bug yet about not working with latest pip

[14:28:44] <ionelmc> xD

[16:17:22] <DRMacIver> It had honestly never occurred to me that pyenv might have a pypi package.

[19:08:58] <nanonyme> Why not?

[20:34:40] <nedbat> i am having difficulties where packages are installed twice, once as -e (in the venv/src directory, with a .egg-link file pointing to it), and once as a real installation (a .egg-info file).

[20:35:13] <nedbat> python imports the src version, but pip looks at the .egg-info version when deciding whether to upgrade. As a result, I am stuck on the old version.

[20:35:30] <nedbat> is there a way to invoke pip install so that this won't happen? (other than completely re-installing everything every time)

[21:05:52] <jwhite007> i'm attempting a pip install of pandas and get "ImportError: /my/path/libblas.so: undefined symbol: _gfortran_copy_string" any suggestions?

[21:25:48] <nedbat> jwhite007: make sure you have fortran install on your machine

[22:23:48] <jwhite007> nedbat: gfortran is in my path.

[22:24:22] <jwhite007> nedbat: i think i have the wrong libblas.so