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[04:36:53] <gusgg> This might be a brew question, but the error is emitted by pip. Why is this happening: http://pastebin.com/eeK2jzU6?

[04:38:29] <gusgg> !logs

[04:38:29] <pmxbot> http://chat-logs.dcpython.org/channel/pypa

[05:12:57] <tdsmith> rosdep makes me real mad

[05:13:57] <tdsmith> i don't know how to reason about anaconda

[05:15:08] <gusgg> tdsmith: is there anything more you can say? the solidarity is nice, though!

[05:15:52] <tdsmith> seems like a bad interaction between setuptools and anaconda; do you know if setuptools is setup_required for pydot?

[05:16:44] <tdsmith> it is not, i think https://github.com/erocarrera/pydot/blob/master/setup.py

[05:16:45] <gusgg> I don't know.

[05:17:36] <tdsmith> i would try `touch /Users/gusgg/anaconda2/lib/python2.7/site-packages/easy-install.pth` first

[05:18:35] <gusgg> I have (had... just nuked everything) setuptools installed. I don't know what is the implication of setuptools not being setup_required for pydot.

[05:19:33] <gusgg> tdsmith: just so that it could not error when it tries to remove it?

[05:19:33] <tdsmith> i'm wondering if setuptools is being installed, in the end, by easy_install or by distutils, but maybe it's not a good question

[05:20:02] <gusgg> my pastebin got removed! they must have thought it was too wild.

[05:20:03] <tdsmith> yeah :o

[05:20:32] <tdsmith> so it is pip and not setuptools that emits that message

[05:21:55] <tdsmith> i'm not 300% convinced that it should be an error condition and not a warning

[05:23:26] <tdsmith> https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2751

[05:23:33] <gusgg> did you confirm that? because when i said it first, I was bluffing

[05:23:56] <tdsmith> yeah, that string appears in pip/req/req_uninstall.py

[05:25:57] <gusgg> I think maybe I will use a homebrew python, then.

[05:26:19] <gusgg> thanks for linking to that issue

[05:26:38] <tdsmith> welcome!

[05:26:46] <tdsmith> i should yell at rosdep for using sudo

[05:26:46] <gusgg> it gives me the confidence to walk the f. away for now? though I've pip installed so many things in anaconda before

[05:27:29] <gusgg> yeah!

[06:06:03] <gusgg> tdsmith: on the assumption that you might know something about homebrew and pip... can you explain why `brew install python` is not installing pip? It's instally python2.7.11, but there is no `pip` under /usr/local/Cellar/python/2.7.11/bin

[06:06:43] <tdsmith> pip is installed into HOMEBREW_PREFIX/bin

[06:07:12] <tdsmith> there should be a /usr/local/Cellar/python/2.7.11/bin/pip actually

[06:07:32] <tdsmith> did `brew install python` give you any messages?

[06:07:35] <gusgg> tdsmith: it's not in /usr/local/bin either... (that's my brew prefix)

[06:08:26] <gusgg> tdsmith: I just uninstalled it (again) and am reinstalling it to show you the exact output

[06:08:34] <tdsmith> if that's true, post_install must have failed, which is perplexing

[06:08:53] <gusgg> oh yes, indeed!

[06:09:08] <gusgg> I have some root-owned files that it can't get rid of.

[06:09:57] <tdsmith> aha

[06:10:29] <tdsmith> need any help fixing that?

[06:12:01] <gusgg> tdsmith: thank you. I think I can manage that much. I had cleared them out. but then rosdeps (I think) put them back in when I tried (probably because of sudo -H)

[06:14:06] <gusgg> gusgg: okay! that's resolved at least.

[12:34:56] <jml> as a package author, can I get downloads by Python version from pypi?

[12:51:10] <meshy> jml: I could be wrong, but I suspect not. You can, however, get downloads per package per release. See https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Django/json

[12:51:18] <meshy> ...as an example

[12:51:24] <jml> meshy: thanks

[12:51:32] <meshy> jml: welcome :)

[15:57:51] <gusgg> I don't understand why I'm seeing these messages: http://pastebin.com/Py1dahGu if I've only ever installed things with pip. Maybe it's because that's not true, and homebrew installed modules too?

[19:52:39] <tdsmith> gusgg: perhaps they're in /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages?

[19:53:37] <tdsmith> or your user site-packages