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[07:17:16] <__init__> hey, could someone help me out with a pip issue? :3

[07:32:06] <__init__> ah, nevermind, I got it worked out

[17:56:18] <willbuntu> i would like to upgrade pip (python2.7 and python3.4) with pip install --upgrade pip, but i keep getting errors ending in "owned by OS", is there any solution to this?

[17:56:55] <willbuntu> i've tried chown'ing (recursively) /usr/local/lib but that didn't help

[18:08:53] <tos9> Pastebin your full output.

[18:12:17] <willbuntu> somehow, the problem seems suddenly solved - i guess recursively chown'ing the first 3 or 4 times wasn't enough? i did it a few more times and it worked. but now i have something new in output that concerns me, so i'll pastebin and link to that

[18:17:50] <willbuntu> except the scrollback on this online IDE won't let me recover what was ouput. oh, well - if i manage to run into problems again then i suppose i'll come back on with them and actually make a pastebin before the output goes away...

[23:51:03] <buck11> I can't uninstall my 4!0 package using pip<6

[23:51:09] <buck11> is that expected, known behavior?

[23:51:31] <buck11> debugging, it's normalizing the version to 4-0 and so cant find the dist-info

[23:57:01] <buck11> apaprently it's the combination of old-pip with new-sertuptools that gets me into this state

[23:57:08] <buck11> old-pip with old-setuptools works fine