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[01:13:53] <karlpinc> dstufft: Thanks.

[17:43:39] <nanonyme> dstufft, FWIW I still think this was a bad call, there should have been some switch that runs egg->wheel conversion where necessary and prefers eggs to tarballs. Would have made migration a lot smoother

[21:13:48] <Ivoz> has OS X 10.11 fixed their crazy python package situation yet?

[21:14:00] <tdsmith> mostly no

[21:14:06] <tdsmith> but what do you mean

[21:15:17] <Ivoz> like six being 1.4.1 and being unremoveable and always early on the import path

[21:15:50] <ngoldbaum> using /usr/bin/python on OSX is asking for trouble

[21:16:00] <ngoldbaum> my favorite is they have a crazy prerelease version of numpy installed

[21:16:08] <Ivoz> debating if best advice to give to https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/3165#issuecomment-176917768 is just install a different python

[21:16:19] <tdsmith> nothing new there

[21:17:15] <tdsmith> yeah, i'd say get a better python or get a virtualenv

[21:17:25] <ngoldbaum> and stop using "sudo pip"

[22:02:24] <nedbat> Ivoz: create a virtualenv

[23:38:58] <wsanchez> tdsmith: It should be fixed in El Cap, IIRC