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[00:23:44] <AA_> Hi I'd like to get some advice considering virtualenv.

[00:24:25] <AA_> My purpose is t ocreate an isolated (clean/pure) python installation to identify the required dependencies for some scripts

[00:25:16] <AA_> but I notice that the sys.path when I run a python installation created in virtualenv will still contain system global paths

[00:25:37] <AA_> such as /usr/lib/python2.7

[00:27:26] <AA_> this would mean in case numpy was installed in the global it would be still accessible from the virtualenv python installation

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[00:47:50] <AA_> I have tried both to create a virtualenv by the simple command virtualenv /home/.../python and also with the options --clear & --always-copy

[00:48:36] <AA_> but in both cases when running the created virtualenv python it will have a sys.path that contains '/usr/lib/python2.7'

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[12:14:57] <oberstet_> dstufft: is the following correct? pypi will prevent uploading an already published artifact (like a source dist) for a given package version a second time, but it will NOT prevent publishing _additional_ artifacts for an already published package version?

[12:16:18] <oberstet_> because this is what I think just happened with one of our dependencies, and that broke our (version and hash pinned) builds https://github.com/msgpack/msgpack-python/issues/183

[15:10:25] <dstufft> oberstet_: correct

[16:35:19] <oberstet_> dstufft: thanks. too bad. we're gonna switch to u-msgpack, as upstream doesn't want to change what he is doing =(

[16:36:32] <dstufft> oberstet_: Ideally pip would be smarter here, and if there are 5 files available and one of them doesn't match a hash, it'll just ignore that file

[16:37:38] <oberstet_> right. or seal the whole set of artifacts for a package version. or, what does ToR (was it?) have for "doing watertight releases" again?

[16:37:51] <oberstet_> but thanks for comfirming!

[16:38:49] <oberstet_> dstufft: meejah pointed me to something state of the art rgd all that (how to move bits to users tamperfree etc), but I forgot

[16:41:55] <simon_weber> can anyone help figure out why https://pypi.python.org/pypi/swaggergenerator isn't found by pip? I always see "Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement swaggergenerator". I can install other packages without problems.

[16:42:24] <simon_weber> (I started with swagger_generator, switched to swagger-generator to appease distutils, then finally removed the dash when that still wasn't working)

[16:43:18] <simon_weber> here's my setup.py:

[16:43:33] <dstufft> simon_weber: you didn't upload any files

[16:46:00] <simon_weber> dstufft: what do you mean by that? I see a source distribution here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/16cj4ndc9k0p6s3/Screenshot%202016-04-29%2012.38.12.png?dl=0

[16:46:45] <dstufft> er

[16:46:48] <dstufft> not sure how I missed that

[16:47:15] <dstufft> pip install swaggergenerator works for me fwiw

[16:47:26] <simon_weber> huh, still not working for me

[16:47:57] <simon_weber> does the index update happen async?

[16:48:04] <simon_weber> or maybe there's some kind of caching going on on my end?

[16:48:16] <dstufft> it's cached a bit, and pip caches the /simple/ page for 10 minutes

[16:48:22] <simon_weber> got it

[16:48:31] <simon_weber> i'll try again in a bit then; thanks!

[17:11:44] <simon_weber> working fine now 👍

[18:06:39] <Vye> I'm trying to install pip via get-pip.py, but the python binary I'm using apparently has an incomplete distutils (no distutils.command), causing get-pip.py to blow up: https://dpaste.de/f5gT

[18:09:51] <Vye> Is there any way around this? I do have a working system python interpreter that has the same major version. I'm just not sure if I should use a it to manage packages for this pre-packaged version.